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Another Giant Leap: The Rubin CPX Specialized Accelerator & Rack

Nvidia announced the Rubin CPX, a solution that is specifically designed to be optimized for the prefill phase, with the single-die Rubin CPX heavily emphasizing compute FLOPS over memory bandwidth. This is a game changer for inference, and its significance is surpassed only by the March 2024 announcement of the GB200 NVL72 Oberon rack-scale form factor. Only with hardware specialized to the very different phases of inference, prefill and decode, can disaggregated serving achieve its full potential.

As a result, the rack system design gap between Nvidia and its competitors has become canyon-sized. AMD and custom silicon competitors may have made a small step forward in emulating Nvidia’s 72-GPU rack scale design, but Nvidia has just made another Giant Leap, again leaving competitors very distant objects in the rear-view mirror.

AMD and ASIC providers have already been investing heavily to catch up in terms of their own rack-scale solutions. AMD in particular has been working tirelessly to improve their software stack to try to close the gap with Nvidia, but now everyone will needs to redouble their investments yet again as they will have to develop their own prefill chips, delaying further the timeframe with which they can close this gap. With this announcement, all of Nvidia’s competitors will be sent back to the drawing board to reconfigure their entire roadmaps again in a repeat of how Oberon changed roadmaps across the industry.

The Rubin CPX

Because the prefill stage during inference tends to heavily utilize compute (FLOPS) and only lightly use memory bandwidth, running prefill on a chip with lots of expensive HBM featuring very high memory bandwidth is a waste. The answer is a chip that is skinny on memory bandwidth and relatively fat on compute. Enter the Rubin CPX GPU.

Source: Nvidia

The Rubin CPX features 20 PFLOPS of FP4 dense compute but only 2TB/s of memory bandwidth. It also features 128GB of GDDR7 memory, a lower quantity of less expensive memory when compared to the VR200. By comparison, the dual-die R200 chip offers 33.3 PFLOPS of FP4 dense and 288GB of HBM offering 20.5 TB/s of memory bandwidth.

Source: SemiAnalysis, Nvidia

The introduction of the Rubin CPX expands the VR200 family of rack scale servers into three flavors:

  1. VR200 NVL144: 72 GPUs packages across 18 compute trays, with 4 R200 GPU packages in each compute tray.
  2. VR200 NVL144 CPX: 72 Logical GPUs packages in addition to 144 Rubin CPX GPU packages across 18 compute trays, with 4 R200 GPU packages and 8 Rubin CPX GPU  packages in each compute tray.
  3. Vera Rubin CPX Dual Rack: Two discrete racks – one VR200 NVL144 rack plus one VR CPX rack with 144 Rubin CPX GPUs across 18 compute trays, with 8 Rubin CPX GPUs in each compute tray.
Source: SemiAnalysis, Nvidia

In this report, we will first explain the story so far and the impetus for the development of the Rubin CPX because of the different role memory plays during prefill and decode phases of inference. We will then dive deep into the architecture of the Rubin CPX chip and the rack-scale solutions where it is deployed. We will then shift focus from the past and present to what the future holds with respect to disaggregated inference serving and how today’s announcement impacts future roadmaps and competitiveness for other merchant accelerator providers and custom silicon projects. In the final part of this article, we will briefly present a comprehensive list of key bill of materials (BoM) items for both racks and a power budget analysis by major component groups.

Memory: The Story So Far

The memory wall has been the most important constraint for AI. Larger memory capacities have been necessary to load larger models into accelerators, while memory bandwidth has been the main gating factor for inference and training token throughput. This is why high bandwidth memory (HBM) capacity and bandwidth per GPU have increased rapidly – from 80GB and 3.4TB/s for the H100 to 288GB and 8.0TB/s for the GB300, more than tripling memory capacity and increasing bandwidth by ~2.5x in less than three years.

Consequently, HBM has consistently increased as a % of accelerator BOM from Hopper to Blackwell, with HBM now being the largest single component of the package BOM for the GB300. HBM is extremely valuable for both training and inference, but when we break down inference to its constituent parts of prefill and decode steps, HBM only has high value for the decode step. During prefill, which is compute intensive, the generation of KVCache is much less bandwidth intensive due to the parallel nature of prefill, therefore the HBM is underutilized during this step.

HBM carries such an expensive premium relative to other forms of DRAM because of its additional bandwidth, and when this B/W is underutilized, this HBM is “wasted”. The escalating proportion of BOM taken up by HBM presents yet another “wall” and is the impetus behind the development of the Rubin CPX GPU.

Source: SemiAnalysis

Now that we have briefly explored the role memory has played thus far, let’s pivot to today’s announcement and explore in detail the architecture of the Rubin CPX and the rack scale servers where it is deployed.

Bandwidth and Compute Difference

Each Rubin CPX chip will be a monolithic SoC on a conventional flip chip BGA package. Instead of HBM, Rubin CPX will have 128GB of GDDR7 DRAM. Switching from using HBM to cheaper GDDR7 memory reduces the cost per GB by more than 50%.

Memory speeds will likely be at 32Gbps with a 512-bit bus. This results in 2TB/s of memory bandwidth per Rubin CPX compared to 20.5TB/s of memory bandwidth per R200. Notably, with this keynote, Nvidia also confirms a significant bandwidth upgrade for regular Rubin. R200’s HBM4 speeds have been significantly increased to 10Gbps to achieve 20.5TB/s of memory bandwidth per R200 as we discussed in the Accelerator and HBM model previously. This compares to the R200 being first unveiled as “only” having 13TB/s of memory bandwidth specifications at a 6.4Gbps speed bin. We discussed and quantify the impacts to HBM suppliers in the model as well. The 144 CPX chips that each deliver 2.0 TB/s of memory bandwidth and the 72 R200 chips that deliver 20.5TB/s will combine to deliver total system memory bandwidth of 1.7PB/s.

For compute, each CPX offers 30 PFLOPs of sparse FP4 computing throughput (20 PFLOP dense) compared to the R200 at 50 PFLOPs sparse FP4 (33.3 PFLOPs dense). Dense PFLOPs for the Rubin CPX follow the same 3:2 sparse to dense ratio as the R200 because it inherits a similar tensor core architecture as Rubin R200. The CPX offers very strong FP4 compute throughput for a single compute die relative to the two dies for R200. The gains are likely from reducing higher precision compute units to have more FP4 ALUs. This was what was implemented with the B300 to get higher FP4 throughput than the B200 while staying on the same 4NP node.

However, as always, peak theoretical FLOPs are extremely hard to attain in practice. Like Nvidia’s other GPUs that are power-limited, it will be very difficult for Rubin CPX to sustain anywhere close to peak FLOPs given what we estimate to be rated power of only around 800W: we do not see it feasible to break past 1W/mm2 of power density, especially as the board comes is integrated in a sandwiched form factor (more on this below).

What is also different is the network. There is no NVLink SerDes for scale-up, instead Rubin CPX relies on PCIe Gen 6 to talk to other GPUs through the CX-9 NICs on the scale-out network. This reduced network capability is more than feasible through implementing pipeline parallelism which we discuss below.

Source: SemiAnalysis Accelerator & HBM Model, AI TCO Model, Above Figures are Demonstrative

Because of the lower total silicon content and less expensive memory, the production cost of Rubin CPX is drastically lower than that of the R200. Lowering total memory capacity and using lower cost GDDR7 means that memory cost is 5x lower. The chip architecture is also far simpler since avoiding HBM and only have a single reticle-sized die without any I/O chiplets means CoWoS packaging is not required. For perspective, the design of Rubin CPX is similar to a next-generation RTX 5090 or RTX PRO 6000 Blackwell, as both use a large monolithic die with a 512-bit wide GDDR7 memory interface. As these chips are based on the consumer Blackwell GPU die, those chips only have 20% of the FLOPS as their HBM-enabled big brother, the B200. With Rubin CPX, this ratio jumps to 60% as it will be a separate tapeout that looks closer to the R200 compute die. As an exercise in achieving maximum FLOPS per unit cost – Rubin CPX is unmatched.

Later in the article, we will break down the BOM advantage of Rubin CPX and estimate how much can be saved by moving prefill off R200 and onto Rubin CPX.

Nvidia Oberon Rack Architecture Upgrade: VR NVL144 CPX, VR NVL144, VR CPX

Let’s move outside of the Rubin CPX chip and into the two new Vera Rubin racks that will host the CPX.

In March of last year, at GTC 2024, Nvidia presented the first generation of its Oberon Architecture: the GB200 NVL72. Fast forward a year and a half later, the second generation of Oberon, the GB300 NVL72, is about to ship in mass production volume. There are very few design changes and upgrades between the two generations. The third generation of Oberon architecture, Vera Rubin (VR), was the focus of Ian’s talk today at the AI Infra Summit. Available in 2026, less than three years after the debut of the Oberon rack-scale form factor, VR will see significant design changes and upgrades from GB200/GB300.

Vera Rubin Oberon pushes power density of the Oberon architecture to its limits, requiring a significant upgrade in power delivery content and design changes in cooling solutions. The cableless design is chosen with consideration to overcome the difficulties with routing flyover cables in the GB200/GB300 assembly & the reliability challenges that the intra-tray cables caused. The cables connecting the OSFP cages to the ConnectX NIC have been removed. Cables connecting from PCIe to the frontend Bluefield DPU & to local NVMe storage have also been removed amongst other side band cables.

The key changes and upgrades found in Vera Rubin are focused on a revamp of the following three Vera Rubin (VR) Compute Tray SKUs:

  • VR NVL144 (Rubin Only)
  • VR CPX (Rubin CPX Only)
  • VR NVL144 CPX (Rubin + Rubin CPX in same tray)

These three compute tray flavors are the building blocks for the three rack solutions discussed:

  • VR NVL144
  • VR NVL144 CPX
  • VR NVL144 + VR CPX (Dual Rack)
Source: SemiAnalysis

The first rack presented was the VR NVL144 CPX. This is similar to the VR NVL144, except that for the VR NVL144 CPX, in each of the 18 Compute Trays, in addition to 4 R200 GPUs and 2 Vera CPUs, we now also have 8 Rubin CPX GPUs in each compute tray as well.

The VR NVL144 CPX rack will also be liquid cooled – but will have a much higher power budget at ~370kW vs the ~190kW for the VR NVL144.

Source: SemiAnalysis, Nvidia
Source: SemiAnalysis, Nvidia

The other deployment option is the Vera Rubin CPX Dual Rack. As the name suggests, this solution allows customers that will have deployed VR NVL144 racks to subsequently add VR CPX racks to their datacenter later, enabling specialized hardware for disaggregated PD inferencing. VR CPX is not connected via NVLink, hence the VR CPX rack does not contain NVSwitch Trays. The VR CPX rack is connected to the cluster through scale-out InfiniBand or Ethernet networking and can be added on subsequently to a cluster in a convenient physical location – it need not be physically adjacent to a VR NVL144.

The dual rack solution offers a lot more flexibility compared to VR NVL144 CPX as the customers can design the prefill to decode ratio to their likings. Also, not everyone’s datacenter infra will be ready for the ~370kW VR NVL144 CPX. In addition there is a smaller blast radius of failures compared to the single rack variant.

Source: SemiAnalysis, Nvidia

In the table below, we can see how much compute and networking content is crammed into one compute tray – a total of 22 Nvidia chips (14 of them being XPUs) in each compute tray, or 396 chips per VR NVL144 CPX rack. To cram all this content above into a single compute tray, Nvidia has moved to a cableless and modular design and is also redesigning the cooling loops within the compute tray.

Source: Nvidia, SemiAnalysis Estimates

The NVL144 CPX will maintain a similar compute board set up as GB200/GB300 for the back half of the compute tray chassis. The notable difference is the adoption of socketable SOCAMM DRAM modules instead of soldered LPDDR5X for the memory that runs off the CPU. Most of the difference between VR NVL144 CPX and GB200/GB300 is in the front half of the chassis below the Host Processor Motherboard (‘HPM’) compute board, also known as the “Bianca” board for Blackwell generation.

At the front, the VR NVL144 CPX design is modular made up of 7 daughter card modules.

  • Four daughter card modules are placed on both sides of the chasis. Each side has two daughter cards stacked on top of each other. These four daughter cards each contain two 800G CX-9 NICs, one 1.6T OSFP cage, one E1.S SSD NVMe Module, and two Rubin CPXs.
  • One daughter card in the middle of the chassis (lower center of the diagram below) houses the Bluefield-4 Module, which contains one grace CPU and one CX-9 NIC.
  • One daughter card stacked on top of this Bluefield-4 module houses the power delivery board (PDB). The PDB is responsible for stepping down power from 48-54V to 12-13.5V as it enters the chassis from the busbar connector at the back.
  • The last daughter card is much smaller and is placed just to the right of the Bluefield-4 module. It is much slimmer and houses the utility management module containing items such as the BMC, HMC, DC-SCM, and management I/O.
Source: SemiAnalysis Estimates, Nvidia
Source: SemiAnalysis Estimates, Nvidia
Source: SemiAnalysis Estimates, Nvidia
Source: SemiAnalysis Estimates, Nvidia
Source: SemiAnalysis Estimates, Nvidia

We estimate the TDP of the Rubin CPX chip to be around 800W, though that rises to 880W in total when factoring in the whole module which contains the GDDR7 memory. To cool down the 7,040W of Rubin CPX modules at the front of the compute tray, the front of chassis cooling must be upgraded from air cooling to liquid cooling.

To accomplish this, NVIDIA has brought back a design from its 2009 GTX 295. The Rubin CPX and CX9 daughter cards are arranged in a sandwiched design with a shared liquid-cooled cold plate in between.

Source: SemiAnalysis Estimates, Nvidia
Source: SemiAnalysis Estimates, Nvidia
Source: SemiAnalysis Estimates, Nvidia

On the outer sides of the PCBs, heat pipes and heat spreaders transfer heat from the back of each clamshell GDDR7 memory modules to the main cold plate. Halving the compute tray area needed to house these GPUs by making full use of the 1U tray height and using both sides of the cold plate allows for maximum density.

Source: SemiAnalysis Estimates, Nvidia

Another key design change of VR NVL144 CPX is the adoption of cableless design. As we discussed in our PCB Supercycle Core Research note as well as our recent Core Research note on Amphenol’s AI Content, there are two reasons for this design. First, flyover cables present multiple different points of failure as they can easily be damaged during assembly. Second, the high-density design of VR NVL144 CPX leaves no space for cables to be routed.

So how are the signals routed without cables? The answer is simple: signals from the HPM (Bianca) board travel off the board via the Paladin board to board connector from Amphenol. This is discussed in more detail in our recent article on Amphenol’s AI Content. The signal is then routed through a PCB midplane sitting in the middle of the chassis. On the other side of the PCB midplane, the daughter cards connect to the PCB midplane via another set of Paladin B2B connectors.

Source: SemiAnalysis Estimates, Nvidia
Source: SemiAnalysis Estimates, Nvidia

To accommodate this cableless design, the CX-9 NICs on the upper part of the HPM (Bianca) board are moved from the back half to the front half of the chassis as illustrated in the diagram below. For the GB200/GB300, the PCIe signal distance between the GPU/CPU and the CX-7/8 is shorter than the Ethernet/Infiniband signal distance between the CX-7/8 and the OSFP cages.

Previously – having to transmit a 200G Ethernet/InfiniBand signal from the NIC in the back half of the compute tray to the OSFP cage in the front of the compute tray necessitated the use of flyover cables as the signal loss over PCB at 200Gbit/s (uni-directional) per lane is too high.

But now that the NIC is closer to the OSFP cage, the lower speed per lane PCIe Gen6 signals (64Gbit/s per lane uni-directional) travel the longer distance, and this connectivity can now be routed over PCB. Although it is still challenging to drive PCIe Gen6 signals over PCB, proper signal integrity can still be achieved by upgrading PCB materials.

Source: SemiAnalysis Estimates, Nvidia
Source: SemiAnalysis Estimates, Nvidia

For better serviceability, the daughter cards are also designed as a module. Each daughter card module can slide in and out of the daughter card module bay. Within the compute tray, there are internal rail kits designed for this purpose.

Below we show how the signals are routed within different Vera Rubin compute tray SKUs as well as the compute tray topology of the VR Rubin SKUs. One highlight from these diagrams is that CX-9 plays a critical role in enabling Rubin CPX and scale out connections, as it is an integrated PCIe switch too.

Source: SemiAnalysis, Nvidia
Source: SemiAnalysis, Nvidia
Source: SemiAnalysis, Nvidia
Source: SemiAnalysis, Nvidia
Source: SemiAnalysis, Nvidia
Source: SemiAnalysis, Nvidia

The Giant Leap: Disaggregated Serving

Today’s announcement of Rubin CPX is a game changer for inference, and its significance is surpassed only by the first announcement of the GB200 NVL72 Oberon rack-scale form factor. Only with hardware specialized to the very different phases of inference, prefill and decode, can disaggregated serving truly be attained.

In this section we will explain the evolution from traditional serving to disaggregated serving with uniform hardware and end with an analysis on disaggregated serving with specialized hardware. We will demonstrate how much waste is incurred by disaggregated serving with uniform hardware. Once specialized inference hardware becomes ubiquitous, using uniform hardware will feel like buying a jackhammer to squash a bug.

As we mentioned earlier in the article, the release of the Rubin CPX will send Nvidia’s competitors back to the drawing board to reshape their roadmaps. To not release a prefill specialized chip of their own will mean saddling their own customers with inefficient systems that will guarantee those customers will lose in the tokenomics marketplace.

Serving an LLM request involves two phases: the prefill phase and decode phase. In the prefill phase, the LLM generates the first token from the user prompt. This phase affects the time-to-first token (TTFT), and it is usually compute-bounded, under-utilizing the memory bandwidth. On the other hand, the decode phase generates a new token while loading the previous tokens from the KV cache. This phase affects time-per-output-token (TPOT), and it is always memory-bounded, under-utilizing the compute.

Source: NVIDIA
Source: SemiAnalysis Estimates

In the chart below, we see an illustrative example highlighting the tradeoff between memory bandwidth and FLOPS utilization when conducting prefill and decode on the same system. The FLOPS required to prefill a single token scales linearly with respect to input sequence length. FLOPS requirements for decode also scales with respect to users on the system (i.e. batch size) and sequence lengths.

A short input sequence length may not fully saturate the FLOPS available on an inference system, in which case the system’s output will be limited by the speed at which parameters can be loaded into chip memory – which is a function of memory bandwidth. As input sequence length increases, however, eventually the workload will grow to use all available FLOPS on the inference system, and the workload will be constrained by the total system FLOPS. In the right half of the chart below, we illustrate that when sequence length exceeds 32k, the FLOPS utilization reaches 100% while the memory bandwidth utilization drops.

Source: SemiAnalysis

Thus we can see that when a node is conducting a very prefill heavy workload – with long sequence lengths or large batch sizes, the memory bandwidth goes unutilized. As mentioned in the previous section, with the % of Chip BOM dedicated to memory increasing continually over the past few years, this ends up being a very expensive underutilization of resources!

Inefficiency also comes from the fact that the workload characteristics of the prefill and the decode phases are so inherently different that prefill and decode requests always interfere with each other’s performance when they are processed concurrently. There are many optimizations to try to balance both – for example adding prefill calculations to decide to ensure a somewhat uniform request length to improve utilization, but they always result in tradeoffs. Another approach is to separate the prefill and decode phases completely, but if you prioritize the decode phase, then your prefill will need to wait – resulting in a long time to first token. Conversely, if you prioritize prefill, your decode phase will be forced to wait and your inter-token latency will be slow as memory bandwidth then goes underutilized.

An Initial Step: Disaggregated Prefill and Decode with the Same Hardware

The first order solution is to implement disaggregated serving to first tackle the interference by routing prefill and decode requests to separate compute units, making it simpler to reason about performance. This has the benefit of being able to better manage service level agreements (SLAs) that tend to focus on a certain level of token/s/user. There are a few catches however. This complete disaggregation only seems to provide excellent results under certain input/output sequence length ratios and for long decode lengths, with other scenarios seeing underwhelming benefits. In addition, this disaggregation still leaves the “wrong sizing” problem whereby a pure prefill operation will almost always heavily underutilize memory bandwidth. 

In the illustrative example below, we show how an R200 would hardly use much of its memory bandwidth when being used solely for prefill. As we increase sequence length and more efficiently use FLOPS available, the memory bandwidth utilization becomes increasingly minimal – effectively wasting very expensive HBM memory.

Source: SemiAnalysis

The Next Step: Disaggregated Prefill and Decode on Specialized Hardware – Enter the Rubin CPX

Since prefill is inherently going to underutilize memory bandwidth resources one approach to reduce wastage is to reduce the quantity and cost of the memory. This is exactly the approach the Rubin CPX has taken by using lower quantities of less expensive GDDR7 memory.

In the illustrative example below, we show how an R200 hardly use much of its memory bandwidth when being used solely for prefill. In contrast, the Rubin CPX actually utilizes a higher percent of its memory bandwidth at fairly short input lengths before dropping even further for input lengths that we would consider typical.

Source: SemiAnalysis

Indeed, we stress this is not about efficiency for efficiency’s sake –and there is a huge impact to the bottom line! In the table below, we use provide an example to compare the memory bandwidth utilization for the R200 GPU and the Rubin CPX GPU. In this scenario, both suffer from very low memory bandwidth utilization, but the difference is that the Rubin CPX GPU is at least leaving lower quantities of far less expensive memory on the table. For the R200 – we see that the exact same prefill workload as is run on the CPX results in a $0.90/hr total cost of ownership wastage!

Source: SemiAnalysis

Rubin CPX brings more memory capacity but the bits are “lower quality” as they are GDDR7, which is less than half the cost of HBM on a per GB basis. From a memory vendor perspective, GDDR7 is less margin because it is a less technically demanding product with more competition (i.e. Samsung can supply it).

What this means is that the use of CPX systems lowers HBM’s share of total system content. For every dollar spent on the VR200 NVL144 CPX or a VR CPX rack, a lower share of that dollar is spent on HBM when compared to the same dollar spend on a standalone VR200 NVL144 rack. All else being equal, assuming a fixed dollar spent on AI systems, HBM demand per dollar spent will decline.

Why Not Just Reduce Memory Further?

Many readers are doubtless salivating at the idea of spending less on HBM and are thinking: Why not curtail the amount of memory in a system even further? If a typical prefill sequence length means a memory utilization of low double digits or even single digits – why not reduce memory capacity to 1/10th the size? Does this mean doom for HBM demand and memory demand in general?

Source: SoftRAM

However, things are not so simple in technology. What Rubin CPX does is reduce the cost of pre-fill and tokens. Lower cost of tokens increases demand, which means more demand for decode increases as well. Like many other technological innovations that drive down cost, increases in demand usually more than offsets a drop in cost, netting out to a higher total dollar market size.

There are additional supply chain implications of this GDDR7 demand. The RTX Pro 6000 also uses GDDR7 but at a lower 28Gbps speed. Nvidia has put in huge supply chain orders for the RTX Pro SKU, with the original plan being to sell chips to China as a replacement for the H20 before export licenses for the H20 were reissued. These orders were primarily placed with Samsung, who had the capacity to meet these sudden rush orders. SK Hynix and Micron were not able to meet this demand as their wafer capacity was tied up to serve their HBM orders among other things. As Samsung can deliver competitive GDDR7, Samsung could similarly benefit from the Rubin CPX.

More on Prefill Pipeline Parallelism: One Interesting Upside of Disaggregated Prefill with the Rubin CPX

In the prior section we outlined how the Rubin CPX reduces memory wastage, but Rubin CPX foregoes the use of very fast scale-up network capabilities solutions such as NVLink is another key saving. Rubin CPX’s off-chip I/O is limited to 16 lanes of PCIe Gen6 which is approximately 1Tbit/s of unidirectional bandwidth vs 14.4Tbit/s of NVLink for R200. This is enough I/O for performing prefill even for modern MoE frontier LLMs.

For instance, DeepSeek V3 when running on the NVFP4 number format will require 335GB of memory capacity to load all the model weights – this exceeds the 128GB of memory capacity of a single CPX chip. This can be overcome by using pipeline parallelism (‘PP’), where multiple layers of a model are split across different GPUs. In PP, each GPU processes tokens sequentially and will pass activations down the pipeline.

The disadvantage of PP is that the tokens are passed sequentially across many GPUs, incurring latency from inter-stage communications. The important implication is that PP will tend to deliver higher token throughput per GPU than Expert Parallelism (EP), but the tradeoff is that PP suffers from a higher time to first token (TTFT) than EP. PP has higher tok/s/gpu throughput because EP has high communications overhead as it involves all-to-all collective operations vs a simple send and receive operation in the case of PP.

So, for pipeline parallel inference, the simpler communications requirements mean that prefill will almost never saturate communications links – meaning there is no need to provision expensive fast scale-up networking. Like with HBM, this is another area where one can find savings by peeling away yet another layer of equipment that goes unused during prefill-only operations – sparing the system owner wasted TCO dollars.

In the table below, we show that prefill for DeepSeek using a parallelism scheme of PP8 or PP4 results in a message size per token of 7kB. If we were to fully saturate the PCIe Gen6 x16 lanes of I/O with messages, this means we could at most transmit (and therefore process) 18.3M tokens per second. This is the communications bound.

Turning to the compute bound scenario, we see that prefill FLOP per token is 0.074 TFLOP. So, if we divide the Rubin CPX’s dense FP4 throughput of 19,800 PFLOPS by 0.074 TFLOP, we arrive a maximum token throughput of 267.6k tokens/second.

This is far below the communications bound and vastly under saturates even a fairly vanilla PCIe Gen6 I/O let alone NVLink which delivers over 14x the bandwidth of 16 lanes of PCIe Gen6.

We estimate that the total NVLink Scale-up cost to the end system owner (inclusive of NVSwitches and Backplane) stands at around ~$8k per GPU – which is just over 10% of the all-in cluster cost per GPU. This is the other dimension along which Rubin CPX delivers considerable savings to the end user.

Source: SemiAnalysis

However, attempting to use Expert Parallelism with lower speed networking connectivity will lead to latency issues and bottlenecks. Communications need scale with respect to the product of top_k times number of layers. DeepSeek V3 has a top_k of 8 and has 61 layers, so a back of the envelope calculation would indicate that using EP over PP would increase communications requirements by ~488x.

One More Thing on Scaling and Huang’s Law

Today’s discussion focused on metrics for inference using the NVFP4 number format. Indeed, inference providers have been continually unlocking more throughput by pulling the level of adopting lower and lower precision number formats. However – once we are at FP4 – we will start to run out of juice to squeeze.

Sparsity has been presented as another lever to pull to keep unlocking more throughput, a key reason why most marketing specifications and decks communicate in terms of Sparse TFLOPS, however sparsity has yet to actually deliver the promised benefits – falling well short of the 2x pickup it promises.

Today’s announcement also unveiled sparsity for Rubin. This sparsity scheme is unlike the 2:4 structured sparsity used in Hopper and Ampere, and it isn’t like Blackwell’s 4:8 pairwise structured sparsity either. We hope Rubin Sparsity is able to yield meaningful throughput benefits and keep Huang’s law on track!

Downsides of Hardware-specialized Disaggregated Serving

As exciting as the advent of prefill specialized chips are, we have not yet reached Nirvana, and hardware specialized disaggregated serving comes with its downsides too. As a provider’s workloads and models change, it is crucial for them to be able to change the prefill to decode instance ratio (PD ratio).

What Now For Custom Silicon?

The optimum PD ratio is sensitive to numerous factors, including model architecture, SLA, networking bandwidth, etc. However, one key disadvantage of the Vera Rubin NVL144 CPX is that it has a fixed number and ratio of Rubin and Rubin CPX chips, which makes it less flexible should one wish to change the PD ratio.

Nvidia’s agility in evolving chips is shifting the landscape rapidly around its competitors. Just as soon as competitors are in striking distance of parity in terms of performance or architecture, Nvidia evolves its products along another dimension. Let’s discuss how widespread adoption of Rubin CPX GPU could impact competing solutions.

Google TPU

The TPU’s 3D Torus scale-up network provides a unique advantage in that it allows a maximum pod size of up to 9,216 TPUs. This is the largest world size in the industry, yet it offers some of the lowest scale-up networking cost per accelerator. This enables a very broad array of parallelism schemes that other smaller world sizes might not support.

With that said, it would be ideal for Google to develop a prefill only chip to continue to maintain their performance per dollar advantage for internal workloads. They have the internal workloads to generate anchor demand to bootstrap and fund the development of a prefill-only chip that can also be later marketed for external use.

Google’s unique topology means that there will be certain inference system configurations and models where performance may even exceed that of certain Nvidia systems.

AWS Trainium3 Max NVL72, AWS EFA NICs and Meta MTIAv4 SUE72

Systems from providers that have internal workloads but are pursuing designs that emulate the NVL72 rack form factor form another category. These providers also have the internal workloads to bootstrap the development of prefill only chips, and it is ideal for them to do so in order to remain at parity with Nvidia’s VR200 NVL144 CPX.

For instance, a prefill only chip for use in conjunction with the Trainium3 Teton-3 Max NL72 (featuring a 72-logical GPU with all to all switched scale-up size just like the VR200 NVL144) can lean on Anthropic’s demand to codesign and gain adoption for their inference workloads.

There will be major time to market challenges for AWS for its VR 144 CPX due to the fact that their 1U compute tray is already tightly integrated and packed with 4 large Rubin  GPU packages and 8 CPX GPU packages leaving no space to add AWS’s custom EFA NICs into the compute tray. Amazon does not want to use ConnectX-9. AWS LOVES EFA!

We believe that they will continue using EFA and overcome this challenge by disaggregating their EFA NICs into an EFA NIC only sidecar rack and use external PCIe AEC cables to connect between the VR 144 CPX rack and the EFA NIC only sidecar rack. Furthermore, since they will not use the ConnectX-9 NIC, which has an integrated PCIe switch, they would also need to use Astera Labs’ dedicated PCIe switches to connect between the Vera CPU, local NVMe, Rubin CPX GPU as well as the external PCIe AEC cable to the EFA NIC in the sidecar rack.

MTIAv4’s SUE72 (featuring a 72-logical GPU with all to all switched scale-up size just like the VR200 NVL144) design similarly can lean on Meta internal inference workloads. Even emerging designs such as OpenAI’s chip with Broadcom stand to compete given they will be codesigned with Frontier Models in mind and with an internal workload as a backstop.

Despite enjoying the benefit of internal demand, the MTIAv3 is excluded from this category due to its small 16 GPU world size. It will effectively now need to develop prefill-only silicon to even have a shot at parity with upcoming Nvidia systems.

AMD MI400 Series UALoE72 and MI500 UAL256

However, with the launch of Rubin CPX GPU, AMD’s comeback strategy is now looking to be not fast or aggressive, and AMD will find itself chasing Nvidia once again. AMD was about to catch up with the rack scale MI400, but Nvidia raised the bar.

The key difference between AMD and the aforementioned providers is AMD’s lack of robust internal workloads to provide the revenue and demand backstop for yet another chip development project just to keep up.

AMD had made waves earlier this year with its Advancing AI Event where it debuted its MI400 72 GPU rack scale system. Our analysis at the time pointed out that the MI400 could offer a lower total cost of ownership relative to FP4 FLOPS than a VR200 NVL144 system – all while providing 19.8TB/s of memory bandwidth vs the 13.0 TB/s of memory bandwidth initially advertised for the VR200 NVL144.

Nvidia’s VR200 NVL144 is now advertising a memory bandwidth of ~20.5TB/s per logical GPU by requesting much faster speed bins from their suppliers. VR200 memory bandwidth now matches that of the AMD MI400 with fewer HBM sites.

Source: SemiAnalysis AI TCO Model

If the MI400’s FP4 effective dense FLOPS (i.e. what microbenchmarks will actually deliver in performance as opposed to marketed throughput) turns out to be on par with or lower than the VR200 NVL144, AMD will effectively show up later than Nvidia to market with a carbon copy of the VR200 NVL144. Meanwhile, Nvidia will yet again pull ahead as the VR200 CPX NVL144 delivers better performance per TCO for long context lengths. AMD will then have to wait again until 2027 to catch up.

However, we believe that AMD remains in war mode, and it now needs to open another front to fight the prefill only silicon battle on top of developing their rack scale system and improving their software to have a shot at catching up with Nvidia by 2027.

Nvidia

Lastly – why should Nvidia stop at only having a prefill focused chip – why not a decode focused chip as well? Nvidia has so far only debuted a prefill focused chip, and the decode step stays with the existing R200 chip rather than a decode specialized SKU.

A decode specialized chip would be the opposite of the prefill chip: skinny compute, fat on memory bandwidth. This chip would look like a R200 but without the need for as much compute. Ideally, I/O would be preserved for both memory and off-package I/O by maintaining the size of the I/O chiplets, but the edges of the main compute die facing the I/O dies can be reduced, whilst keeping the same edge to fit 2 HBM site per edge. The result is a much smaller compute die.

Additional savings could be also had from a significant increase in parametric yields with a lot of defeatured SMs as well as much TDP reducing costs associated with power delivery and thermal management. This is the opposite of the case of the pre-fill chip where the amount of HBM is preserved, while there are reductions in other parts of the system, bringing HBM’s share of BOM back up.

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Huawei Ascend Production Ramp: Die Banks, TSMC Continued Production, HBM is The Bottleneck

Compute is the lifeblood of AI. He who controls the spice controls the universe the compute will control the production of tokens and reap the benefits of AI. Without compute you do not have a seat at the table. The United States technology community is all in on compute and AI as the next platform and is now adding compute at a staggering pace.

There is competition, and it not only comes from companies but from countries, and the US government has placed a series of export controls to limit China’s rising compute. Today the US controls and is the undisputed leader in compute with more than 70% of the worlds deployed FLOPs. One way to stay ahead is to keep going full steam while hindering your competition. Limiting your competitor nation state from compute, which will limit them from intelligence, is the current policy to stay ahead in the AI race.

These moves have led to backlash, including with China cutting rare earth minerals and magnets off from the US. Secretary of Commerce Howard Lutnick says the resumption of Nvidia GPU sales to China were required to restart China’s shipments of their linchpin supply chain materials.

But constraints have also led to adaptation, and Chinese companies have adapted. High batch sizes and disaggregated serving are but two examples. Despite advances, in the case of DeepSeek, most of their tokens are still inferenced on western hardware. We wrote about this dynamic in our recent DeepSeek debrief. Training of DeepSeek’s next generation model was also delayed by the use of Huawei chips, as we also said in the debrief.

This is not a stable equilibrium. There are always moving pieces in the race for intelligence. Beijing plans for the long term and knows it must secure its own domestic compute destiny. There is an irony: in the 2010s China kicked out Google to enforce its Great Firewall and foster its domestic industry, this time the US government is withholding hardware technology so they cannot seize the lead in AI.

We believe that at China’s core, they want to control not only its internet and AI, but the hardware that supports it. From silicon to tokens, China seeks sovereignty over every layer of the stack, and given recent history will never want to be beholden to foreign powers. Enter Huawei.

China loves national champions, and in it’s characteristic capitalism, tends to funnel resources to a few national champions. Today’s champion is probably Nvidia’s greatest adversary: Huawei. We expect Huawei to be able to make millions of chips this year, and to be bottlenecked by HBM next year. Today we want to talk about Huawei, which can translate as “China’s achievement”.

All In with Huawei’s chips

Huawei is the key piece for China’s compute destiny. Huawei’s chip ecosystem is vertically integrated and capable network of tools, fabs, and design that allows it to express a full stack vision of hardware. This hardware is very impressive although less efficient then western hardware.

Our previous investigation into Huawei’s fab network is a great example of their broad reaching network.

Source: SemiAnalysis

Huawei wants to vertically integrate the entire manufacturing process. The goal is to own not just the manufacturing of the logic die, the brains of the chip, but also the memory and packaging. They have even created their own tool company, SiCarrier to copy foreign firms tools. Huawei has bought over $9B of tools to put in their own fabs as well as reverse engineer to replicate.

Their efforts are not to be underestimated. SiCarrier, for example, has recently raised $2.8B in funding. That money is going into building fabs dedicated for Huawei staffed by Huawei employees. Some reporting on these fabs, which we believe to be Huawei owned and operated, suggests that their combined production by next year could entirely exceed SMIC, the current leader and where production is currently outsourced. With Huawei ramping up their own efforts, allocation at SMIC can be freed up for other chips, including Cambricon. The Cambricon chip is itself popular among Chinese companies, especially ByteDance.

Huawei operating their own fabs will represent a material increase in Chinese production, but also in their ability to iterate, control, and improve on processes. Huawei and SMIC will directly work on increasing yields, refining R&D for the next node, and bolstering Chinese semiconductor manufacturing capability.

Currently, all high volume chip production is outsourced to SMIC, the leading Chinese pure-play foundry. This includes the Ascend series of accelerator chips along with the Kirin mobile processors. Yields are poor for SMIC’s 7 nm-class processes due to a combination of immaturity, export controls, and the inherent difficulty in yielding large die such as the Ascend. Thus a relatively low percentage of SMIC’s overall capacity is allocated to producing Ascend die, since smaller mobile processors just make better business sense at this point. But this can change quickly. Let’s discuss what is possible for Huawei….

Source: SemiAnalysis

Huawei Production Numbers and SMIC’s Ramp

Our data shows Huawei’s production is 507k Ascend units shipped in 2024, the majority of which are 910Bs, and 805k this year, 653k of those being 910C. The 910C is the more advanced version. This includes die made by TSMC and SMIC.

SMIC, hampered by export controls, struggled to get production off the ground. But Huawei got Ascend die fabricated at TSMC while SMIC ramped. This was a violation of export controls and Huawei ended up receiving more than 2.9M Ascend die, which can be used for both 910B and 910C. We detailed this here.

It is specifically this “Die Bank” of foreign chips from TSMC that gets them through 2024 and 2025. Without this Die Bank, Huawei’s Ascend production numbers would be much lower.

Source: SemiAnalysis

We expect that the TSMC die bank to run out within the next 9 months. SMIC, however, now has more than enough capacity to produce meaningful volumes of chips. We forecast that SMIC will no longer be the bottleneck for Ascend production, as they will have sufficiently ramped capacity by end of year.

Source: SemiAnalysis

The chart above shows a baseline scenario with a modest increase in SMIC capacity allocation for Ascend. It requires at most 20k wafers per month (wspm) of SMIC capacity to produce millions of Ascend die per month.

For reference, a conservative estimate of SMIC’s total advanced node capacity (7nm and below) is 45k wspm by end of 2025, increasing to 60k wspm in 2026 and 80k wspm in 2027. In addition, Huawei is building their own fabs, not all of which are export controlled, and collaborating with SMIC on process technology, so production could ramp higher for advanced process technologies.

If 100% of capacity was allocated to Ascend die, their production capability would be in the tens of millions per year. They are on track to be more than capable of supporting a large domestic demand for China-produced compute die.

Source: SemiAnalysis

Our forecasts above use a conservative estimate for both yield and its rate of improvement in the future. It’s very likely that SMIC can exceed these estimated as its 7nm nodes mature. Our estimates for yields are lower than TSMC, Intel, Samsung, ASE, Amkor, etc for front end wafers and packaging.

Source: SemiAnalysis

Indeed, yield is an important lever that can be pulled to increase production without giving up more allocation. With just small increases in yield beyond our forecast above, SMIC will be able to produce several million Ascend die at lower allocation amounts than they would otherwise. Every percentage counts and SMIC has their best engineers working on exactly this problem.

Source: SemiAnalysis

In other words, SMIC only needs small amounts, as low as single digit percentages, of allocation to produce more than a million die as soon as early next year. Production to a couple million is possible, more allocation is all that is needed. For the reasons we articulate above, we believe the reported number of 200k Ascend chips to be significantly off the mark.

While SMIC is expanding and is no longer the bottleneck and Ascend production, Huawei’s long-term ambitions include its own fab network buildout. We noted in our Fab Whack-A-Mole report:

Huawei is clearly taking full advantage to the tune of $7.3B of WFE expenditure in 2024, up 27% year-on-year. They’ve gone from effectively zero in 2022 to the 4th largest WFE customer globally in two years.

Since we published that report in fall of 2024, the Huawei fab buildout has, if anything, accelerated. Their ecosystem of semiconductor-related shell companies is expanding. Massive new cleanroom buildouts are in progress. And improved domestic options and possible diversion of $30B+ of imports of wafer fabrication equipment means they are likely able to equip these fabs as well. The details are worthy of their own report, but suffice to say Huawei continues with a large, concentrated effort to own every vertical in the Ascend supply chain.

TSMC Access

Huawei currently makes many mobile chips, but there is zero reason to do so from a strategic geopolitical perspective. Oppo and Xiaomi currently fabricate mobile SoCs at TSMC. They are ramping up their own designs to decrease dependence on companies like MediaTek and Qualcomm.

Huawei can reduce their mobile SoC production while not consuming, in any meaningful volume, SMIC allocation. The continued access to TSMC for other Chinese entities decreases the pressure for SMIC to make mobile SoCs, meaning more can be allocated to AI chips.

Huawei and SMIC can ramp up AI production without having to worry about serving all the nation’s demand for mobile chips due to other companies’ access to TSMC.

Export Control Lag Benefits SMIC

Another part of SMIC’s expansion strategy is stockpiling considerable amounts of semiconductor tooling. The controls are released on an announced schedule and it’s usually easy to anticipate what will be included.

This is due to timing differences in controls that they can take advantage of. For example, the U.S. routinely exempts Japanese and Dutch companies from its equipment export controls. Ostensibly this is done because they are allied countries and have their own export control regimes and semiconductor industries.

The problem, however, is that when new export controls come out, Japan and the Netherlands do not immediately follow. In many instances, matching controls are delayed by 6 months or never. Chinese companies can rush order years’ worth of equipment to stockpile, while American vendors are shut out of the process.   Japanese WFE vendors are happy to sell into this gap with margins fattened by order expedites. Many key suppliers are seeing well above 40% revenue share from China:

Source: SemiAnalysis

In cases where controls do follow the US, Japan and the Netherlands do not have any matching controls on re-exporting. This means that it is possible for restricted tooling to reach China if it goes through a different country first.

In addition, the use of “advanced ICs” as the bar for restricting tools leaves room for issues. ASML’s NXT:1980 scanners are perfectly capable of 7nm-class logic, and likely beyond if economics (throughput and yield) can be ignored or subsidized. These are allowed into China and even to certain SMIC facilities.

Export controls, as noted, can be expanded in addition to very stringent enforcement of existing mechanisms. This includes tighter coordination with allies on timelines for matching controls and getting buy in on re-exporting.

We are broadly encouraged by the administration’s Action Plan. As an example, we are pleased to see controls on semiconductor subsystems being called out. This is a drum SemiAnalysis has been beating for a while and think it is the right direction. With that said, many subsystem firms that supply western players such as VAT Group in countries like Switzerland without controls will not be stopped from shipping critical chambers to China.

The Action Plan also included concrete suggestions around aligning protection measures globally, which we think if implemented, will greatly ameliorate the issue of alliance’s lags in export controls described above. The issue is that SMIC and CXMT are able to continue to expand production because the sanctions on them are flimsy. International co-operation, especially with partners in Korea, is key to get right and ensure that Chinese commercial bottlenecks are not eased. Korea manufactures a huge amount of memory and Samsung has historically supplied large amounts of memory into China, so tight alignment of goals and enforcement is critical.

The other part of the supply chain that is just as critical is memory. This is where we believe the key constraint lies.

HBM Is the Bottleneck

We believe HBM production is the bottleneck. China does too, which is why they have asked US officials to relax controls on HBM as part of the recent trade talks. What the ask omits is telling: it does not include more TSMC access or lithography tools. Beijing is specifically asking Washington to loosen HBM restrictions.

Much like how Huawei was able to stockpile TSMC logic wafer inventory, they were also able to stockpile HBM inventory. Samsung, due to their failures in entering the accelerator supply chain for Western chips, sold their product to Chinese customers that funneled this inventory to Huawei. This is why it is so critical to work with Korea on enforcement of memory controls moving forward.

Samsung alone has directly provided 11.4 million stacks of HBM to China, including a staggering 7M stacks in the 1-month gap between controls announcement and enforcement dates. When including other providers and methods of shipment, that is 13 million stacks of HBM.

Specifically, on December 2nd 2024, the Bureau of Industry and Security (BIS) announced controls on anything more advanced than HBM2E. Full compliance was required on December 31st 2024. Samsung exported as much as possible to China in that one quarter. This comprises the majority of China’s HBM. They were able to achieve this due to the US Government and media telecasting the restrictions for many months before they came out.

Source: SemiAnalysis

After the ruling, Samsung HBM still made it into China. We previously detailed how companies like CoAsia Electronics and Faraday supplied non-functional chips with HBM into China, though we believe due to our efforts in exposing this both privately in late January and publicly later that it has now stopped with revenue numbers returning to normal. This does not mean that HBM smuggling has stopped entirely, though. There could be other sources.

Source: SemiAnalysis, Company Reports

In sum, China has procured 13M HBM stacks which is sufficient for 1.6M Ascend 910C packages. Despite this, we expect that China will be bottlenecked by HBM by the end of the year as they run out of foreign HBM.

Source: SemiAnalysis

China can easily make more than 805k Huawei Ascends this year from TSMC and SMIC capacity, but they will not because they do not have enough HBM.

We expect SMIC’s production to be 1M 910Cs and almost half a million 910Bs this year, however, not all of them will be turned into ASICs as the HBM is not available. If some HBM enters through smuggling, then Huawei can produce more Ascend AI ASICs.

Without Foreign HBM, China has no Domestic AI Accelerator Industry

Without access to more foreign HBM, Huawei will not be able to fabricate even 1 million Huawei Ascend chips next year. They must rely entirely on domestic production which we will detail below. Nvidia and AMD have effectively 0 competition in China once these HBM banks run out.

The other option available to China is utilize slower GDDR and LPDDR memory, but this is not suitable for the leading language models with modern reinforcement learning techniques or for large scale inference deployments.

Domestic HBM Industry – CXMT

China’s main DRAM player, CXMT, has caught up with the west rapidly. This is due to a combination of extremely strong domestic engineering capabilities, poaching engineers from Samsung, SK Hynix, and Micron, as well as the leading tool vendors Applied Materials, Lam Research, and Tokyo Electron teaching them sub-processes.

CXMT is able to ship DDR5 memory, only a couple years behind SK Hynix, Micron, and Samsung, and is winding down profitable DDR4 production previously reserved for PCs and mobile. While they have not shipped much HBM, their roadmap is aggressive. By next year, their production capacity will rival that of Micron’s, though not fast enough to save Huawei Ascend’s production. In 2026, we expect them to be producing 257k WPM, which would be just under 15% of global DRAM production. In our estimates, this scales to 490k in 2030.

CXMT’s Hefei facility for DRAM and HBM production, one of the largest in the world. Source: SemiAnalysis.

CXMT’s shift in focus and production ramp are driven in part by investments from the CCP. China’s “Big Fund III”, which started in May 2024, invested $2B into the company. CXMT is also expanding in Shanghai as well as Beijing, with HBM packaging subsidiaries being set up in the former.

Expecting, though ultimately averting, an entity listing by USG, CXMT stockpiled years of tools in 2024 and is likely still adding HBM-specific gear. CXMT is still not entity listed! While HBM was noted as a key focus in that salvo of controls, the previous administration failed to include China’s HBM champion. The Trump administration needs to solve this failure from the Biden administration immediately.

The stockpiling matters as advanced tools, like Hanmi’s TCB systems for HBM3, are restricted, but they are not that instrumental. Older systems can be run slower without impacting cost too much. More importantly, CXMT can still procure leading edge equipment for Through Silicon Via (TSV) formation – that is critical for making HBM -through Japanese suppliers. In addition, Chinese OSATs such as JCET and Tong Fu are also racing ahead with their R&D efforts and building capacity for the critical TSV and stacking processes to package front end HBM wafers from CXMT. This is unlike the Western memory incumbents who have vertically integrated these processes. This is a typical example of Chinese industrial development where multiple players are encouraged to develop domestic manufacturing capabilities: creating cutthroat competition that accelerates the speed of development. It is therefore critical to not just focus controls on CXMT, but the whole of China as critical process steps can always be outsourced.

Because front-end logic is currently not the binding constraint, Beijing’s main asks in the trade deal target HBM and the relaxation of controls relating to this set of tooling. Given the importance of HBM, it is critical to understand CXMT’s future production depending on various allocation scenarios.

CXMT Production Forecast

This can play out in several ways, depending on how much wafer capacity is given to HBM. China can easily produce tens of millions of stacks with less than 50% of wafer capacity. CXMT is at a bit over ~250,000 wafers a month of production capacity and is expected to reach 300,000 wafers by the end of the year.

Currently they have not built out the tooling required to convert standard DRAM production lines to HBM, but it is inevitable. Properly designed, targeted sanctions can slow this conversion massively.

Source: SemiAnalysis

Different scenarios lead to different amounts of Huawei Ascends produced. As noted, SMIC can produce the die needed to match the HBM.

To be clear, this could change. The rate of production for CXMT could increase if they continue stockpiling key tooling or significantly improve yields. The might of China’s manufacturing capability and capacity knows no bounds. This estimate is somewhat conservative, it is likely that CXMT is able to produce the significantly more capable HBM3e in 2026.

We believe CXMT will only be able to make ~2 million stacks of HBM next year, which is only sufficient for 250,000-300,000 Ascend 910C’s. Yields and capacity conversion will take some time to improve for CXMT to commit significant capacity.

If all leading edge logic die capacity could be paired with HBM, Huawei production of Ascend would grow from 805k this year to 1,175k in 2025. More importantly, production next year would grow from 300k to over 5 million Ascend 910C!

Our analysis indicates that export controls have been effective in constraining and limiting Chinese chip production capabilities. Assuming no smuggling, China will be able to make less Ascends next year, not more. CXMT is squeezed tight. Had controls not been present, the Ascend ramp would be fully realized, Chinese models would be served on Huawei Ascend at scale, and there would be enough compute capacity that advanced models like DeepSeek R2 and V4 would already be here. Not to mention, with more capacity, China would be better positioned to export their AI on their chips.

As such, it is absolutely critical to ensure the application, enforcement, and continued updating of export controls to prevent CXMT and related entities from ramping production. As mentioned, this includes not just CXMT but OSATs and subsidiaries they work with. Second, it is also important for the intelligence community to track and identify any instances of HBM smuggling, like the Faraday + CoAsia scheme which we disclosed privately in January and publicly reported on later.

By no means should HBM be allowed to be shipped into China. Production of AI chips over the next few years is heavily gated by CXMT’s ramp and foreign shipments of HBM.

There is very strong incentive to find ways to ship HBM into China. This is why enforcement of controls are so critical.

There is another pillar to China’s production strategy, separate from memory and logic. This pillar is about networking the chips together and where they are made.

Networking and Datacenter CPU

Chips do not exist in isolation. We have argued that the system matters more than the microarchitecture for years. Clusters are comprised of many tens of thousands of interconnected chips and how they are interconnected matters.

We detailed Huawei’s CloudMatrix 384, or CM384, system below.

We believe the networking equipment used, specifically the scale up switches, are being made at TSMC and not at SMIC through shell companies. We also think they are stockpiling this equipment.

We believe Huawei has also been able to manufacture their datacenter CPU at TSMC. This showcases that current controls aimed to limit Huawei’s access to TSMC are insufficient. The Ascend AI ASIC is 7nm, but because of poor screening, Huawei has been able to procure technology from the more advanced TSMC 5nm node.

Huawei’s KunPeng 930. Source: Kunal, SemiAnalysis

By producing these chips at TSMC, this frees up capacity at SMIC, meaning more allocation can be given to the Ascend or Cambricon programs (HBM permitting). This, as mentioned earlier in the report, is a critical variable. If SMIC had to make the networking equipment, this would squeeze the wafer allocations towards Ascend significantly.

There is all the incentive in the world for China to offload as much production as possible to TSMC. They have used shell companies before and there is ample evidence they are still doing it. While some ideas around KYC and red flags have been implemented, we believe that existing frameworks are insufficient.

Nvidia and Huawei: Blackwell and the H20

The US government previously banned the Nvidia H20 chip from going into China, but recently indicated that Nvidia will be granted a license to be able to export the chip. As we have previously noted, the H20 is a capable chip with more memory than the banned the H100, though it has less much fewer FLOPs. Having more memory is helpful for inference performance.

Nvidia is poised to sell its existing inventory of the H20 and H20E (a variant with even more memory) at a minimum. This will amount to more than several hundreds of thousands of chips and billions of dollars of revenue.

There have also been reports of a more advanced version based on the Blackwell series. This is slated to have just as much memory as the H20 but will also contain significantly more FLOPs. Specifically, the B30A could have more than 10x the FLOPs than the H20, significantly above the export control threshold. The B30A could be positioned at half the price and have half the performance of the B300. The solution to this is rather simple: just buy 2x the chips for equivalent performance. Given how strong and weak scaling work in machine learning workloads, this is a valid path to remain competitve.

The B30A is argued as needed to be shipped to China due to decreased interest from China in the H20. A lot of this is due to government pressure of China’s major tech firms. While there is significant messaging that China has decreased interest in the H20, we do not believe this to be true.

Specifically, we do not believe this is reflective of China’s demand for compute or foreign chips. It is an incorrect policy being pushed from the top down which will be reversed as soon as Huawei runs out of HBM to produce more Ascend chips, or it could even be orchestrated brinkmanship to get approval to a more powerful chip.

This is on the tail of other news, like DeepSeek unable to get acceptable performance on Huawei’s chips. That is no coincidence. Export controls are working and the biggest blocker for more progress is compute.

China may be trying to psyop their way into getting the significantly more performant Blackwell chip. While the H20 and the H20E have much, much better software than the 910C, it is arguable that they are in the same league. However, it is unquestionable that the B30A would be in a league of its own. Given that the H20, H20E, and especially the B30A are good at inference, this also allows Chinese companies more compute to serve their models and applications.

It will allow them to export Chinese AI on hardware they own. This will increase the proliferation of Chinese AI and Chinese apps, inevitably taking market share away from American applications. The American AI stack is American AI on American chips, not just the chips.

The US needs to balance having China on the US AI stack and slowing the development of their own, while also limiting the quality and volumes that are shipped into China.

The H20 is allowed into China, but the progression of shipping more powerful chips into China should be closely guarded and watched considering China’s domestic capabilities.

The US should only move the quality of a chip shipped to China when it becomes clear China can ship something competitive to the H20E in significant volumes.

Regardless of the exact SKU, the export licenses have several implications discussed below.

Implications of Compute Diplomacy

First, it means that there will be more chips for top players like DeepSeek and Alibaba to use for Reinforcement Learning (RL). RL is a big driver of progress right now. The majority of RL compute is inference, which the H20 and especially the H20E, are good at. The B30A will have even better performance.

Players like DeepSeek had enough compute to keep improving – R1 received a major update with performance increases on a timeline that is like o1 -> o3. We firmly believe GPT-5, Claude 4, and Grok 4 are considerably ahead of R1 though, especially in agentic tasks.

However, problems in AI are solvable by two things: talent and compute. DeepSeek has always had the former, now they will have more of the latter. We expect DeepSeek’s rate of progress to materially increase as they receive substantial volumes of any chip that gets into China. DeepSeek has ambitions to release a multimodal model in V4, but scarce compute is slowing progress.

Alibaba (Qwen) and Moonshot (Kimi K2), have also yet to produce a large multimodal model, primarily focusing on text only due to compute limitations. They will release multimodal models this year, but they are still squarely behind OpenAI, Anthropic, and Google in many capabilties. If Blackwell GPU shipments come too early, that will accelerate China’s pace.

The second major implication of this is that China will now have more compute to serve and inference models to its population. Compute constraints affect user experience, with DeepSeek deliberately serving R1 at low speeds to users to preserve compute.

Poor user experience from the lack of compute has greatly limited China’s ability to deploy AI. As user experience improves, so will adoption, and the economic benefits from AI. It is easy see a future in which models are pre-trained via H800s, post-trained on H20s, then served to the population on Ascends and H20s. There is so much demand for AI powered products that should more capacity to serve these models exist, it would immediately be satisfied. One of the reasons Chinese models are open sourced is that it allows for other people to serve their models for them. With more capacity, models can be closed sourced and dependence on American providers cut off.

Claims that models trained on one chip must be inferenced on the same type are entirely false. Anthropic did different stages of research and training for Claude 4 on GPUs and TPUs. Additionally, Claude 4 inference is offered on Nvidia GPUs, Google TPUs, and Amazon Trainiums. This complexity is all while Anthropic is also the fastest growing AI company in terms of revenue with by far the most capable model for software engineering.

DeepSeek, Alibaba, Moonshot, etc primarily train their models on Nvidia chips and we do not think this will change anytime soon. If the Blackwell version ships, gains across all levels will be more pronounced.

Source: SemiAnalysis

China’s compute at a snapshot

With the H20 approved, this represents a material increase in the number of FLOPs and memory that China has access to. The 910C will be the first meaningful effort of indigenous production in China in terms of realized FLOPs and memory. We also expect some re-exportation into China by various bad actors, constituting meaningful volumes of H100 and low volumes of B200.

Source: SemiAnalysis

Should the Blackwell version ship, gains around FLOPs will be even more pronounced as the chip has significantly more FLOPs. China will end up having more FLOPs in that scenario, in addition to more memory.

Source: SemiAnalysis

This is not to mention that Chinese players, including major ones like ByteDance, can still access compute through renting in non-restricted countries. For example, ByteDance can still access top of the line Blackwell GPUs from providers like Oracle and Google. We have previously covered this relationship in detail. Malaysia, in no uncertain terms, has become a huge market for Nvidia. Export controls were also effective in ensuring that it remains that way, with Malaysia immediately distancing themselves from any effort around the Huawei Ascend.

Renting enables a path for Chinese dependence on Nvidia without Nvidia chips being in China, which is possible because the chips do not need to be in China. Bytedance’s Seed models were trained in the US on a US cloud.

Inspecting GPUs is much easier in Malaysia than in China. As such, it is an effective way to limit any unauthorized re-exporting by bad actors, as we believe methods like location tracking are technically intractable and easy to bypass. Note that renting will still allow China access to the capability of training advances models. If allowed to be used for serving the models, this allows China the chance to proliferate their AI through new and improved AI powered applications, taking market share away from American products. The critical difference, though, is that access can be cut off.

With that said, China will not allow their data to be shipped out of China in large volumes hence there is still significant need for domestic AI capabilities. Selling chips into China does not change China’s drive for total silicon self sovereignty and will only serve to help provide a buffer while local production meets demand.

It is worth remembering that China’s focus on silicon self sovereignty predates US export controls. The argument Blackwell needs to be sold into China is a false narrative as Huawei will soon run out of HBM. Selling chips into China only served to bail them out until domestic production ramps. The production ramp will not slow until self sufficiency is achieved. Shipments of Blackwell must be weighed with a close eye on production of domestic capabilties. If Huawei, Cambricon, and CXMT accelerate production faster than expected, then the US should raise the bar sooner.

Next, we dive into Nvidia’s future in China. This includes expected revenue from the H20 and newer China specific chips on the horizon. We also compare how much compute China has relative to the US how the is absolutely dominating China when it comes to both memory and FLOPs.

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H100 vs GB200 NVL72 Training Benchmarks – Power, TCO, and Reliability Analysis, Software Improvement Over Time

Frontier model training has pushed GPUs and AI systems to their absolute limits, making cost, efficiency, power, performance per TCO, and reliability central to the discussion on effective training. The Hopper vs Blackwell comparisons are not as simple as Nvidia would have you believe.

In this report, we will start by present the results of benchmark runs across over 2,000 H100 GPUs, analyzing data on model flops utilization (MFU), total cost of ownership (TCO) and cost per training 1M tokens. We will also discuss energy use, examining the energy in utility Joules consumed for each token trained and compare it to the average US household annual energy usage, reframing power efficiency in societal context. We will also show the results of this analysis when scaling the GPU cluster from 128 H100s to 2048 H100s and across different versions of Nvidia software.

Later in this report, we will also analyze GB200 NVL72 benchmark results across Llama4 400B MoE and DeepSeek 670B MoE and compare this data to our earlier results from the H100. We will discuss whether the GB200 NVL72 performance per $ advantages survives once reliability issues are factored in.

Downtime from poor reliability and lost engineering time is one of the main factors that we will capture in our perf per TCO calculations. Currently there are no large-scale training runs done yet on GB200 NVL72 as software continues to mature and reliability challenges are worked through. This means that Nvidia’s H100 and H200 as well as Google TPUs remain the only GPUs that are today being successfully used to complete frontier-scale training. As it stands today, even the most advanced operators at frontier labs and CSPs are not yet able to carry out mega training runs on the GB200 NVL72.

With that said, every new architecture naturally requires time for the ecosystem to ramp software to effectively utilize the architecture. The GB200 NVL72 ramp is slightly slower than prior generations, but not by much, and we are confident that before the end of the year, GB200 NVL72 software would have improved considerably. Combined with frontier models architecture being codesigned with the larger scale up world size in mind, we expect that there will be significant efficiency gains from using the GB200 NVL72 by the end of the year.

On the reliability front, there will continue to be significant challenges that Nvidia must work even closer with its partners to rapidly solve, but we think the ecosystem will quickly rally its resources towards tackling these reliability challenges.

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Benchmarking and Analysis Methodology

For our benchmarking and analysis, we rely on Nvidia’s DGXC Benchmarking Team’s new DGX Cloud Benchmarking Scripts executed on NVIDIA’s internal H100 EOS cluster, configured with 8×400 Gbit/s InfiniBand networking. These results serve as the official reference numbers against which Neocloud environments can be compared when defining service-level agreements (SLAs) between Neoclouds and their customers.

Clouds can also submit benchmarks to NVIDIA and if they are able to meet these EOS reference numbers then they can earn the NVIDIA Exemplar Cloud designation. Our upcoming ClusterMAXv2 will heavily weight providers’ Exemplar Clouds status when evaluating service quality as this status is a stamp of approval that a provider can deliver reference performance numbers across many workloads for large scale GPU deployments.

The aforementioned benchmarks are conducted using NeMo Megatron-LM, but given that many end users of GPUs do not exclusively rely on NeMo Megatron-LM, the DGXC benchmarking team has plans to extend coverage to native Torch DTensor frameworks such as TorchTitan.

We would like to thank the Nvidia DGCX benchmarking team for creating these sets of benchmarks and providing reference numbers to help lift up the GPU Cloud industry!

H100 and GB200 NVL72 Capex, Opex, Total Cost of Ownership Analysis

The price of an H100 server has dropped somewhat in the past 18 months to around $190k per server. Including storage, networking and other items, the total upfront capital cost per server comes up to $250k for a typical hyperscaler.

Turning to the GB200 NVL72, the rack scale server alone costs $3.1M for a typical hyperscaler. Including networking, storage and other items, all in cost comes up to about $3.9M per rack.

When comparing across all three buyer types, from Hyperscalers to Neocloud Giants to Emerging Neoclouds, the GB200 NVL72’s all-in capital cost per GPU comes to about 1.6x to 1.7x the all-in capital cost per GPU of the H100.

Source: SemiAnalysis

Comparing the two systems’ operating cost of ownership, we find that the Opex per GPU for the GB200 NVL72 is not that much higher than that of the H100. The cost difference comes from the fact the GB200 NVL72 has a higher all-in power consumption per GPU than the H100. This is primarily driven by the fact that the GB200 chip consumes 1200W per chip vs 700W for the H100.

Source: SemiAnalysis

When factoring in both capex and opex in order to arrive at the total cost of ownership (TCO), we see that TCO for the GB200 NVL72 is about 1.6x higher than TCO for the H100. This means that the GB200 NVL72 needs to be at least 1.6x faster than the H100 in order to have an performance per TCO advantage when compared to the H100.

Source: SemiAnalysis

Three things Nvidia could do better for the ML community

Before we deep dive into the benchmarks and results, we will present three key suggestions to Nvidia.

First, we recommend that Nvidia expand their benchmarking efforts and increase transparency even more. In order for Nvidia to continuously raise the bar across the entire GPU cloud industry, it needs to benchmark across both its Hyperscaler partners and Nvidia Cloud Partners (NCPs) and make the data publicly available. With this, anyone in the ML community can factor the benchmarking data into their decision making process before signing contracts worth tens or hundreds of millions of dollars.

As an example, in the first release of our ClusterMAX rating system, we pointed out that GCP’s older a3-mega H100 delivered 10% worse than average MFU for O(Llama 70B) size training and 15-20% worse than average for MFU of O(8x7B) mixture of experts spare models. Thus, end users should be paying 10-20% lower than average rental cost to GCP in order to achieve the same performance per dollar as the market average. Having a publicly available set of benchmark results across the Hyperscaler and NCP providers will dramatically increase the ease of negotiating fair contract prices and speed up decision making. This can save considerable time and money on both sides by obviating the need for extensive, costly and time-consuming proof of concept runs.

Our second recommendation to Nvidia is that they expand their benchmarking focus beyond NeMo-MegatronLM as many users prefer to use Native PyTorch with FSDP2 and DTensor instead of NeMo-MegatronLM. One advantage of using NeMo-MegatronLM is that at any given time, there are many performance features in NeMo-MegatronLM that aren’t yet available in native PyTorch. It is reasonable for the latest features to be rolled out to NeMo-Megatron first, but all of these features should be upstreamed to native PyTorch after a month’s time at most. To this end, more Nvidia engineers should be allocated towards PyTorch core development instead of being tasked with adding more features to NeMo. Nvidia expanding benchmarking focus should include runs employing PyTorch will dovetail perfectly with this initiative as well.

Instead of having engineers optimize NeMo, they should be optimizing TorchTitan. The new NeMo AutoModel library is a step in the right direction it as supports native PyTorch FSDP2 backend in addition to Megatron-LM, noticeability missing is native PyTorch 3D+ Parallelism with DTensor and a lot of pretraining features is absent and most of the features is for finetuning.

Our third recommendation is that Nvidia continue to accelerate development of diagnostics and debugging tools for GB200 NVL72 backplane. Unfortunately, even after an extensive burn-in process, the NVLink copper backplane still is not that reliable. Operators of the GB200 NVL72 also lament that this problem is compounded by the fact that the tools used to diagnose and debug back-plane related errors are behind and sub-optimal. Nvidia can also improve the situation by insisting on even stricter acceptance tests across their ODM/OEM partners before handing GB200 NVL72 racks over to their customers.

GPT-3 175B Token/s/GPU, Training Performance and Power. Cost Improvements from January 2024 to December 2024

In the table below, we present the results of our benchmark runs in which we train GPT-3 175B on a 128 H100 cluster at different points in time. We chose to display results across different NeMo-Megatron LM Versions starting from January 2024 and ending in December 2024, representing one year and two years respectively from the start of H100 mass deployment.

The benchmark setup uses 128 H100s with 4 data replicas. Each data replica consists of 32 GPUs parallelized with each layer tensor parallelized using the NVLink domain across 4 GPUs (i.e. TP=4) and then pipelined. One might think that it would be best to do TP=8 to match the entire NVLink domain world size of 8 GPUs for the H100, but for GPT-3 175B model, it is better to use TP=4 as this will have a higher arithmetic intensity.

To elaborate, GPT3 175B’s hidden dimension is 12,288, which means if one were to use TP=8, the result will be a small K reduction dim of 1,536. By comparison, when using TP=4, the hidden reduction dim will instead be 3,072.

The sequence length of the benchmark follows the original GPT-3 paper setup and uses 2,048 seq length as well as a global batch size of 256 samples. This means the model will see 500k (Global Batch Size * Seq Len) tokens before each optimizer step.

When looking at BF16 model flops utilization (MFU), we see a considerable improvement from 34% MFU to 54% MFU over the course of 12 months, amounting to a 57% improvement in training throughput solely from software improvements across the CUDA stack. This improvement results from NVIDIA CuDNN/CuBLAS engineers writing more optimized fused wgmma kernels, NCCL engineers writing more optimized collectives that use fewer SMs for communication among other improvements. At the end of the day, it is the full software stack optimization that matters.

We see the same trend for FP8 MFU, improving from 29.5% MFU to 39.5% MFU in that same time, for a 34% improvement in throughput from just software gains alone.

Turning to costs, assuming a cost of $1.42/hr/GPU excluding any rental margin, we see that the cost to train GPT-3 175B on FP8 went from 72 cents per 1M tokens trained in Jan 2024 to just 54.2 cents per million tokens by Dec 2024. That means that the cost to train GPT-3 175B when using the original training token count of 300B improved from $218k in Jan 2024 to only $162k by Dec 2024.

Finally, we examine the power consumption from training GPT-3. We estimate the all in power draw for the 128 H100 cluster inclusive of GPUs, CPUs, networking, storage and other components. We then gross this up by the power usage effectiveness (PUE) of a typical colocation data center to arrive the all-in utility Joules per token.

As an unwelcome flashback to high school physics, a Joule is a unit of energy that is equivalent the work done when a force of 1 Newton moves an object 1 meter in the direction of the force. Lighting an incandescent 60W light bulb for one second consumes 60 Joules (a Watt (W) is a unit of energy consumption per second) and consumes 216kJ per hour. An alternative way to express units of energy is to use watt-hours or kilowatt-hours, which is just the power of a device multiplied by the number of hours which it is utilized over. The average annual US household in 2022 consumed 10,791kWh of energy or approximately 38,847,600,000 Joules. Dividing this 10,791 kWh by 8,760 hours per year gives us 1,232 W of power on average over the year – a little more than the 1,200W used by a single GB200 GPU!

We see that each token trained consumes 2.46 Joules for FP8 and 3.63 Joules for BF16 when using the December 2024 version of NVIDIA software. If we had an energy budget equivalent to the average US household’s annual energy consumption, we could train 15.8B FP8 tokens. Extending this calculation further, training 300B tokens on GPT3 175B would require 19 annual US households’ worth of energy consumption for FP8 and 28 households’ worth of annual energy consumption for BF16.

GPT-3’s total training cost of $162k and 19 households’ annual energy consumption doesn’t sound excessive, but it is the many experiments and many failed training runs that add up to the ballooning energy growth from AI Training we are seeing now in the United States.

Weak vs Strong Scaling

Strong and weak scaling describe the performance improvement of scaling compute resources for different problem setups, for instance, different batch sizes.

Strong scaling refers to scaling compute resources while keeping the model size and global batch size the same. In such a case, Amdahl’s Law, which describes the speedup that can be achieved by parallelizing computing steps, can be used to quantify the speedup of strong scaling.

On the other hand, weak scaling refers to scaling compute resources to solve larger problems at a constant time. AI Training inherently utilizes weak scaling since you can scale up your model size and your global batch size (depending on convergence) by scaling up the number of GPUs used a training job.

Source: SemiAnalysis, Performance and Scalability – SCENET Summer School

Llama3 405B Token/s/GPU, Cost Per Million Tokens, Joules Per Token vs Number of GPUs (Weak Scaling)

In this benchmark, we examine how training performance for Llama3 405B varies as we increase the number of H100 GPUs in the cluster – an example of weak scaling.

In the table below, we see how as we increase the GPU cluster size from 576 H100s to 2,304 H100s, both FP8 MFU and BF16 MFU hover around 43% MFU and 54% MFU respectively across all sizes. In the training run published in the Llama 3 Herd of Models Paper, researchers used 16k H100s to train Llama 3 405B, achieving a BF16 MFU of 41% for pretraining using a similar parallelism strategy. Note that the above pre-training runs used a sequence length of 8192, whereas for mid-training context extension, each sample’s sequence length is 131,072 instead of 8,192. This longer sequence length requires context parallelism across 16 nodes resulting in MFU dropping to 38% due to the additional communication needed for ring attention.

Source: SemiAnalysis

Turning to total cost of training, we see that carrying out just the pre-training run, training Llama 3 405B over 15T tokens, costs $1.95 per million tokens when training using BF16 using a 2,304 H100 cluster. This adds up to $29.1M just for the pretraining phase, which is dramatically higher than mixture of expert models such as DeepSeek – which cost only $5M per training run.

Of course, we stress once more that this cost reflects the cost for a single final successful training run and the cost of the many experiments needed to get to that final stage as well as the cost of employing researchers, among other costs.

Since Llama3 405B is approximately 2.3x larger than GPT3 175B in terms of total parameter count, the all-in utility Joules per token is about 2.3x greater for Llama 3 405B vs GPT3 175B at 8.8 Joules per token vs 3.6 Joules per token respectively.

This means that for the same energy as the average US household consumes in a year, Meta can train 4.4B tokens on Llama3 405B on BF16. To train to convergence using 15T tokens, Meta would require an amount of energy equal to the annual consumption of an entire neighborhood of 3,400 US households.

Llama3 70B Training Performance Token/s/GPU, Cost Per Million Tokens, Joules Per Token vs Number of GPUs (Weak Scaling)

Next, we look at Llama3 70B training performance for different cluster sizes. As we increase the cluster size from 64 H100s to 2,048 H100s, we see that performance for FP8 drops by 10%, dropping from 38.1% for 64 GPUs down to 35.5% for 2,048 GPUs. It is quite interesting that the MFU drops by so much (on a percentage basis – which is what really matters given the low MFU base) because the per data replica batch size doesn’t change as we scale up and the parallelism also strategy doesn’t change. All runs still continue to use TP=4,PP=2, and context parallel=2 – the only real change is adding more data replicas. Interestingly, for BF16, the drop in MFU is far smaller at only 1-2%, dropping from 54.5% MFU for 64 H100s down to 53.7% for 2,408 GPUs.

Llama3 405B is 5.7x larger than Llama3 70B, and as with any dense models, the number of FLOPs required is linear with respect to the number of parameters. As such, the cost to train Llama 3 405B should be 5.7x greater than that of Llama 3 70B. In practice, at the ~2k H100 scale, Llama3 405B is 5.4x more expensive in terms of the cost per million tokens using BF16.

In terms of power consumption, we see that for FP8, training consumes 10% more energy per token when training on 2,408 H100s vs 64 H100s. To train Llama 3 70B to convergence with 15T tokens on FP8 using at 64 H100s would only use energy equal to 440 US households’ annual energy consumption, whereas at the 2,048 H100 scale, we would require energy equivalent to 472 US households’ annual energy consumption.

Llama3 8B Training Performance Over Time

Larger models like Llama3 405B and Llama3 70B both use tensor parallelism, pipeline parallelism and data parallelism, but training Llama3 8B only requires context parallelism across the 8,192 sequence length for each pair of GPUs within the NVLink domain and uses data parallelism to spread the work beyond across other pairs of GPUs. In this analysis – we also look at training performance with respect to time in order to gauge how software improvements across the stack have affected training performance. We see that performance has only improved slightly from November 2024 to April 2025, the latter date being a full 23 months after Hopper began mass deployment.

In the next section, we deep dive into the current state of GB200 NVL72 training performance as compared to training on the H100. We will discuss benchmarks from training DeepSeek 670B MoE and Llama4 400B MoE, analyzing GB200’s performance per total cost of ownership (TCO) vs that of the H100.

We will also zoom into the aforementioned lack of effective GB200 NVL72 diagnostic and debugging tools and discuss the many issues contributing to the unreliability of GB200 NVL72. These are the challenges that NVIDIA, CSPs, Neoclouds and the end users at frontier labs must solve in order to successfully and cost effectively train frontier models on the GB200 NVL72 before the end of the year.

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Scaling the Memory Wall: The Rise and Roadmap of HBM

The first portion of this report will explain HBM, the manufacturing process, dynamics between vendors, KVCache offload, disaggregated prefill decode, and wide / high-rank EP. The rest of the report will dive deeply into the future of HBM. We will cover the revolutionary change coming to HBM4 with custom base dies for HBM, what various different accelerators are doing with custom HBM including OpenAI, Nvidia, and AMD, the shoreline area problem, memory controller offload, repeater PHYs, LPDDR + HBM combos, and various beachfront expansion techniques. We will also discuss SRAM tags, compute under memory, supply chain implications, and Samsung.

A Brief Overview of HBM

As AI models grow in complexity, AI systems require memory with higher capacity, lower latency, higher bandwidth, and improved energy efficiency. Different forms of memory have different tradeoffs. SRAM is extremely fast but low density. DDR DRAM is high density and cheap but lacks bandwidth. The most popular memory today is on-chip HBM which strikes the balance between capacity and bandwidth.

Source: Rambus

HBM combines vertically stacked DRAM chips with ultra-wide data paths and has the optimal balance of bandwidth, density, and energy consumption for AI workloads. HBM is much more expensive to produce and has a warranted price premium to DDR5, but demand remains strong for HBM. All leading AI accelerators deployed for GenAI training and inference use HBM. The common trend across accelerator roadmaps is to scale memory capacity and bandwidth per chip by adding more stacks, higher layer counts, with faster generations of HBM. Architectures that rely on other forms of memory offer sub-optimal performance, as we have demonstrated.

In this report, we will examine HBM’s present state, what’s happening in the supply chain, and the groundbreaking changes happening in the future. We’ll examine HBM’s critical role in AI accelerator architecture, the impact HBM is having on the DRAM market, and why it is upending the way memory market analysis is being performed. For subscribers, we will also address the major questions on Samsung’s future viability as a supplier, as well as highlight one technological change that may reverse the trend of increasing HBM capacity.

HBM Primer

First, a brief primer on HBM – what makes it special and challenging to manufacture. While HBM is commonly associated with multiple DRAM dies stacked in a 3DIC assembly, the other key feature is HBM’s much wider data bus, improving bandwidth even with mediocre signaling speeds. This significantly wider bus results in HBM being far superior in terms of bandwidth per package than any other form of memory.

Source: SemiAnalysis

The implication of having much more I/O is increased routing density and complexity. Each I/O requires an individual wire/trace, with additional wiring required for power and control. For a HBM3E stack, there are over a 1,000 wires between the adjacent XPU and the HBM. This level of routing density is not achievable on a PCB or package substrate; therefore, an interposer (silicon or organic) in a 2.5D package assembly like CoWoS is required.

To reduce latency and energy consumption for data transfer, HBM needs to be placed directly adjacent to the shoreline of the compute engine. This makes shoreline (the edge of a SOC) more valuable as HBM can only be limited to the 2 edges of the SOC with the other 2 edges reserved for I/O off the package. This limits the area HBM can be placed in and requires vertical stacking of memory die to provide enough capacity.

To enable the 3DIC form factor, each layer of the stack needs to have TSVs (excluding the top of stack) that can deliver power and signal to the layer above. The additional area required to fit these TSVs is what makes HBM die sizes larger than their DDR equivalent: SK Hynix D1z DDR4 has a bit density of 0.296 Gb/mm2, 85% more dense than their HBM3 which is 0.16 Gb/mm2. This TSV process is one of the key differences between standard DRAM, and tooling for this is the main bottleneck when it comes to converting regular DDR DRAM wafer capacity to HBM capacity.

The other difference is at the back-end, where the HBM needs to be stacked to 9 or 13 layers in total (8/12 DRAM layers on top of a logic base die at the bottom). Along with CoWoS, HBM has brought packaging technology to the mainstream. Niche packaging technologies like MR-MUF have now become common knowledge for industry participants.

Explosive Bit Demand

We can see the huge growth in HBM bit demand that has come alongside AI accelerator demand. Despite the rapid rise of custom ASICs, Nvidia will still command the lion’s share of HBM demand in 2027, driven by its aggressive roadmap, where Rubin Ultra alone pushes per GPU capacity to 1 TB. Broadcom follows as TPU and MTIA volumes surge, while incremental OpenAI and SoftBank projects add a smaller but noticeable lift. Amazon also emerges as one of the top HBM customers. For Amazon, it has a strategy of procuring HBM directly rather than through design partners, helping them to lower their cost. For a detailed, chip-by-chip bit forecast, refer to our Accelerator Model. It includes projections for revenue and bit demand by memory vendor, as well as wafer starts and TSV capacity, broken down by supplier. The model also tracks HBM pricing across different generations, and provides chip-by-chip HBM type, layers, stack counts, capacity and bandwidth.

Source: SemiAnalysis

Process Flow: Front End

When regular DDR DRAM capacity “converts” to HBM capacity – the main change is the addition of tools for forming the TSVs, and more bumping capacity as HBM wafers are bumped on both sides. Both of these steps are to enable the 3D stack, although they are omitted for wafers used for the top die which only need a single side of bumps and don’t require TSVs.

TSVs require etchers to create the vias, and deposition and plating tools to fill them. To reveal the TSVs, grinders, another etch step, and temporary bonders to attach carrier wafers used in this process are required. This is why HBM capacity is now quoted in terms of TSV capacity, as this is the main incremental set of processes that turn DDR wafers into HBM wafers.

For bumping, this is mainly deposition, plating and stripping. Also, optical inspection tools from Camtek and Onto are available to check that the bumps are not defective and are of the correct profile.

Source: Applied Materials

Process Flow: Packaging

The other part of this is back-end packaging which Hynix continues to push forward with MR-MUF which we wrote about extensively here. In short, MR-MUF offers higher productivity and better thermal performance. Hynix’s proprietary (co-developed with NAMICS) molded underfill material offers more thermal dissipation than the Non-Conductive Film that Micron and Samsung use. Hynix has been able to sidestep thermal compression bonding (TCB) because they have found other ways to manage warpage. One of the benefits of TCB is the use of force to stabilize the bonding matter.

The use of force on the other hand increases the risk of causing damages to bumps. With stress applied to bumps, SK can also add more dummy bumps which also helps with thermal dissipation.

Source: SK Hynix
Source: SK Hynix

The process is also far more productive. A batch mass reflow and single over-mold step are used for joint formation, compared to a complete TCB step for joint formation for each and every layer with TC-NCF.

Source: SK Hynix

Process Flow: Yields

HBM is a more technically sophisticated product than other DRAM form factors, especially given the high 3DIC stack. As such, packaging yields are not going to be comparable to what manufacturers are accustomed to compared to their more conventional products. However, yields at the front end are also challenging, and we think yield is more of a problem at the front end. As mentioned above, HBM is not demanding with regards to speed bins, so why is this the case?

The reason goes back to the 3DIC assembly and the TSVs. One of the challenges is the Power Distribution Network (PDN) with the TSVs needing to be able to deliver power up the stack. TSV layout and design is proprietary and one of the main areas of differentiation between the various manufacturers.

One of HBM’s key challenges is delivering power up the stack with power TSVs. Refresh operations especially draw a lot of power, and the design of the power distribution network is important. Hynix’s HBM3E has reduced peripheral area and introduced all-around power TSVs on the die instead of having two banks of power TSVs, thereby increasing the number of TSVs by almost 6x. As a result, SKH has achieved a much lower IR drop, up to 75% lower for VPP.

Source: SK Hynix at ISSCC 2024
Source: SK Hynix at ISSCC 2024

Similarly, Micron’s surprising leapfrog in HBM technology (Micron didn’t even offer standard HBM3) was due to its focus on TSVs and the power delivery network. The TSV network seems likely to be the point of differentiation that allows Micron to claim 30% lower power consumption, though that claim is yet to be verified.

Source: Micron

The other thing is delivering the promised speeds within the power and thermal envelope. As with any 3DIC assembly, thermal dissipation is an issue, and DRAM especially doesn’t like heat. As data from hyperscalers have shown, HBM failures are the number one cause of GPU failures, which happen more frequently than other chips in the data center.

All manufacturers have absolute yields well below what they’re accustomed to compared to their conventional memory wafers, so it is a question of relative yields and the end economics. For SK and Micron, yield loss is more than made up for by high pricing, and hence, HBM is margin accretive. For Samsung, yields are even worse. Ironically, their low yields tighten up the total DRAM wafer supply, leading to higher pricing.

This leads us to layer counts. Higher layer counts are harder to achieve. Simplistically if the stack yield of a single layer is x%, each layer’s yield will accumulate to x% to the power of n bond steps (which is just total layers less 1). Take an 8-layer stack with 99% stack yield per layer; total yield will be 92%. For a 12-layer stack, this becomes 87%. Of course, this is overly simplified. Yield degrades at higher layer counts as non-critical stack defects can accumulate. For example, a small but acceptable amount of non-co-planarity at a few layers can result in an unacceptable amount of co-planarity at higher levels.

Process Flow: Bonding Tools, SK Hynix + Hanmi Drama

The bonding or die attach step is a key contributor to yield and thus requires sophisticated tools. With TSV pitches around 40 µm, the bonders must be capable of single-digit or even sub-micron alignment accuracy. Even pressure distribution is also crucial to avoid warpage that will compound over many layers. And throughput of course is important as it drives cost.

Hanmi made an early bet to focus on thermocompression (TC) bonders for HBM, a segment at that time ignored by market leaders Besi and ASMPT. This paid off in a near monopoly in current HBM processes. At SK Hynix their share was 100% until last fall, when Hynix placed a large order with competing tools from Hanwha. Allegedly, they paid Hanwha a higher price for the tools.

This set off a firestorm at Hanmi who, understandably, were upset to see a competitor winning with higher prices despite not being qualified on Hynix’s process for HBM supply to Nvidia, the largest and most important HBM customer.

A proud Hanmi employee stands next to a TC bonder in his cleanroom suit. (source: Hanmi)

The dispute reached a fever pitch in early April when Hanmi pulled its field service teams out of SK Hynix fabs. Without service, it would be months if not weeks before Hynix was unable to ship its marquee products. Longer-term it would threaten the entire accelerator supply chain as Micron and Samsung would not quickly be able to fill the capacity void. Hanwha’s tools had not yet been delivered and a batch of ASMPT bonders ordered last fall do not work for Hynix’s HBM3E 12-high. This left the fabs with little choice but to beg forgiveness from Hanmi.

Under enormous pressure, SK Hynix placed a small order with Hanmi in recent weeks. It appears this was more to placate Hanmi than a large volume order, but it was enough to restore field service to the tools. There may not be much more juice for Hanmi to squeeze from their monopoly power, as ASMPT, Besi, and others are rushing to improve their HBM-specific TC bonders.

China: CXMT & Huawei HBM

Export restrictions ban the transfer of all raw HBM stacks into China; however, chips with HBM can still be shipped as long as they don’t exceed the FLOPS regulations. Currently, banned HBM is still being reexported to China through a network involving CoAsia Electronics, Faraday and SPIL which allows end users in China to desolder and reclaim the HBM from GPU packages.

As HBM is one of the key ingredients for accelerators, and with export restrictions threatening to cut off HBM supply, China is naturally pouring resources into domestic development efforts. China has planned 200B USD in subsidies for home-grown semiconductors over the next five years. Expect a material portion will go towards HBM. DRAM national champion CXMT is aggressively expanding HBM capacity, with a large stockpile of tools to insulate from updated export controls (U.S. increased HBM controls in Dec. 2024, Korea more recently). HBM2 8-high will enter mass production in the first half of 2025, with TSV capacity matching Micron’s by the end of the year.

Huawei, which has never seen a high-tech market it doesn’t want to enter, has its own HBM affiliates with XMC (Wuhan Xinxin) producing the HBM wafers and SJSemi (Shenghe Jingwei Semiconductor) packaging them. Current capacity is at R&D scale, not high volume, but is planned to ramp in coming years. Both XMC and SJSemi are entity listed and thus restricted from buying equipment with U.S.-origin content (GlobalFoundries recently got a slap on the wrist despite selling more than $17 million in chips to SJSemi without a license).

XMC’s DRAM / HBM fab, supplying Huawei’s domestic HBM efforts. (Source: Google, SemiAnalysis)

HBM Stack Counts – Let’s Get High, to Hybrid Bond or Not?

More layers in the HBM stack means more memory capacity. With each generation, layer counts have gone higher. This stack height has been contained within a 720-micron height cube (the current JEDEC standard) up until now. To fit in more layers, each die (excluding the top die, which needs to be much thicker to withstand handling during subsequent packaging steps) has been made thinner, and the bump gap between the dies has also been made thinner to create more space to fit in more layers. Thinner dies are increasingly difficult to handle and, therefore, more vulnerable to warpage and breakage, which hurts yields.

The main benefit of Hybrid bonding (HB) for HBM is it is bump-less. By eliminating the bump gap this frees up room for more DRAM core layers to fit. This introduces a whole host of new challenges for yield and cost which may not be worth it, especially as HBM doesn’t need the level of interconnect density that hybrid bonding offers. If anything, manufacturers are exploring how much the pad density can be relaxed in hybrid bonding to ease bond accuracy requirements to make the technology more viable for HBM. HB also offers a one off power and heat benefit but the primary benefit is stack height.

HB adoption for HBM has always been a “next generation” technology and the goalposts continue to keep shifting. For D2W hybrid bonding, getting yields to be acceptable is extremely difficult and expensive for a 2 layer. Imagine scaling that problem for 16 layers and higher. The memory players are still very early in their hybrid bonding technology development. In TSMC’s experience, HB adoption has taken a long time to reach volume production and even when the performance benefits are clearer in advanced logic – adoption has taken a long time.

HBM3 and HBM3E are going up to 12-hi stacks and with bump-based interconnect, 12-hi has approached the limit within the current 720um cube thickness. The two solutions to go higher are either bump-less or making the stack taller/thicker. In a blow to hybrid bonding adoption, the latter has been chosen with JEDEC confirming a relaxation to 775 um stack height.

Height relaxation can go even further. 775um is the standard thickness of a silicon wafer. HBM needs to be the same height as the logic die it is co-packaged with. To have something higher than a 775 um stack, the logic wafer would also need to be thicker and the current equipment is not designed to accept thicker wafers. One potential solution could be to raise the molding of the interposer underneath the logic to raise it and ensure coplanarity with the neighboring HBM, though this lengthens the traces and implementing silicon bridges for interconnect will not be straightforward.

Source: SemiAnalysis

While initially there was more talk about HB implementation for HBM4, this has been shifted back to 4E. Recently, both Hynix and Micron have been far quieter on HB adoption, while Samsung is the loudest. This is typical for Samsung which often promotes the most aggressive technology implementations in attempts to catch up, only to expectedly fail on execution. This leads to them falling even further behind.

While 16 layer is solved by the higher stack height, to get to 20 layer and beyond, there is likely a further reduction of the bump gap and more wafer thinning, or we simply cap out at 16 layers. With higher stacks you can get more density but more stacks offer bandwidth and density.

Throughput Optimized: I/O is the Lifeblood of the AI Accelerator

The key defining feature of an AI accelerator is they are highly parallelized and optimized for throughput. Accelerators are designed to maximize the total number of operations an accelerator can perform per second by sacrificing the complexity of these operations. Most accelerators focus on multiplication and addition operations for General Matrix Multiplication (GEMMs), which dominate AI training and inference workloads. This compares to CPUs, which are also focused on how many instructions per second they can execute, but CPU cores are much “smarter,” which requires far more circuitry and area. Therefore they are designed to execute a broad range of more complicated tasks but at much lower throughput.

The implication is that AI accelerators need a lot of off-chip bandwidth for memory and the scale up and scale out fabrics. Bandwidth is needed to move the processed data off-chip whilst also feeding the accelerator unit with more data to process. Without sufficient bandwidth, the XPU’s compute elements will be left unutilized, defeating the purpose of having all this parallel computing power available. Let’s start with memory needs

Memory content increases

To deliver more performance – increasing memory capacity and bandwidth along with FLOPs has been paramount and easily observed in accelerator roadmaps. There are 3 dimensions where capacity and bandwidth are scaling:

  1. Newer generations of HBM deliver higher bandwidth through faster signalling speeds, and denser core die
  2. Adding the number of layers per stack increases capacity. We are on the cusp of 12-high HBM becoming the mainstream configuration
  3. Adding more HBM stacks per package adds more bandwidth and capacity

Here we can see this in Nvidia’s roadmap. HBM capacity explodes from the A100’s 80 GB of HBM2E to a 1024 GB of HBM4E for Rubin Ultra. Memory bandwidth per chip also increases dramatically. From Ampere to Blackwell Ultra, the biggest absolute and relative increase in the bill of materials comes from the additional HBM content- benefitting the memory vendors (primarily SK Hynix).

Source: SemiAnalysis

This is related to the need for non-memory I/O as well. Scaling up more GPUs in a single memory-coherent domain delivers more aggregate memory capacity and bandwidth. This allows scaling inference of larger parameter models and support for much longer context lengths that are becoming prevalent in reasoning models and complex workloads.

Just as Parkinson’s Law observes that work expands to fill the time allotted, modern AI follows a “memory‑Parkinson” dynamic in which neural‑network architectures relentlessly grow to occupy whatever HBM becomes available. Each generational bump in HBM capacity and throughput, whether 80 GB at 3 TB/s on H100 or 192 GB at 8 TB/s on GB200, quickly encourages designers to increase parameter counts, context lengths, and KVCache footprints, nullifying the headroom that seemed ample only months earlier. Techniques once deployed to squeeze models into tight budgets (activation checkpointing, optimizer off‑loading, weight quantization) are relaxed as soon as new HBM space appears, until the memory wall is hit again and efficiency tricks must be rediscovered. In effect, the mere presence of larger, faster HBM does not yield sustained slack; instead it resets the baseline for “reasonable” model size, ensuring that capacity and bandwidth remain limiting factors despite silicon advances. Essentially, as AI chips get more HBM, developers immediately build larger models to fill it, so memory is always the next bottleneck. Let’s go through how HBM is used, and where the pressures are.

HBM Usage in Inference

In LLM inference, all the model weights reside permanently in the on-package HBM memory so the GPU can fetch them without delay. Alongside the weights, HBM also holds the KVcache. Each time the model is asked to produce the next token, the GPU first reads the weights from HBM and simultaneously retrieves the entire KV cache so it can compare the new token against the conversation history during the self‑attention phase. After computing, the GPU appends a fresh key and value for the newly generated token back into HBM, enlarging the cache. This is very demanding on bandwidth as every token decode step repeatedly reads both the static weights and the ever‑growing KV cache. If memory bandwidth is not able to move this data at terabytes per second the GPU spends more time waiting for memory than performing computation. This is what happens in reality, as bandwidth significantly overwhelms the compute intensity of token decode, making most LLM inference workloads memory bandwidth-bound rather than compute bound.

As models improve, they have increased in horizon lengths. What this means is that models are able to think, plan, and act for longer periods of time. This rate of increase has been exponential and has already manifested itself in superior products. Deep Research from OpenAI, for example, can think for tens of minutes at a time, while GPT-4 mustered mere tens of seconds.

As models can now think and reason over a long period of time, the pressure on memory capacity explodes as context lengths regularly exceed hundreds of thousands of tokens. Despite recent advances that have reduced the amount of KVCache generated per token, memory constraints still grow quickly. One way to deal with this has been to serve reasoning models at lower batch sizes which is harmful to economics.

The main driver of AI progress is Reinforcement Learning (RL) and a huge part of the RL paradigm is inference. As an example, often what is needed for RL is synthetic data satisfying strict requirements, which means conducting many GPU-hours worth of inference to generate data that is later filtered by another model. Another example of heavy inference loads is RL for hard-to-verify tasks like creative writing. Unlike code, which can be checked and verified easily, things like creative writing, legal work, and teaching cannot be verified trivially. The way to get around this, and thus to get a signal to reinforce and improve the model, is to have another model judging the answers. This LLM-as-a-judge is then given a rubric, currently hand written but soon to be automated by LLMs, which it uses to grade the answer.

KVCache offload

There are various algorithmic or setup improvements that are designed to reduce pressure on scarce HBM. One technique is offloading the KVCache to a cheaper and more available tier of memory such as conventional DDR or even storage.

Today, KVCache offloading is already commonly used . Nvidia has a framework for this called Dynamo Distributed KVCache Manager. Conceptually this is not so different from the multiple tiers of memory available in general purpose CPUs: extremely fast but low density L1/2/3 Cache and slower but high density DRAM. In an AI system, where the where the KVs are stored based are managed based on frequency of usage. A well-optimized system keeps all currently used KVs in HBM, infrequently used KV in DDR, and very rarely used KV in NVMe.

Just like how DRAM is not cannibalistic to L1/L2/L3 cache demand for CPU, HBM and DDR/SSD offload do not compete with each other directly. In fact, for most modern LLM workloads, the prefill speed (aka the rate at which KVCache is produced) is typically slower than the transfer rate to DDR or NVMe SSD, meaning KV rarely ‘lives in HBM’ in their entirety. They get produced and evicted or sent to the decode node to be used to produce the next token. Mostly it’s the system prompt that is used for every user that is kept in HBM as well as other hot KVs such as the active sequence window and some prefetch buffers.

As for whether DDR or NVMe is used, it depends on workload needs and size of workload. It also depends on how often the workload is cycled as frequently cycled KVs are not a good fit for the limited write/rewrite tolerance of NAND. Agentic use cases that use tool calling to pull in documents and data at very low latency and high cycle rates today further push caching from NVMe to DDR. These are architectural and user experience tradeoffs to consider, rather than direct substitutes to each other.

As use cases evolve, there may be different hardware setups used for different inference needs. For example, querying a fixed code base or document would benefit from accessing larger amounts of KVCache per user per GPU as the memory demands of those user behaviors is extremely high compared to normal chat.

HBM for Pre-Training

For traditional pre-training, everything the GPU needs for a forward‑and‑backward step passes across HBM. First, the model’s weights are stored in HBM so each layer can read them quickly while computing the forward pass on a batch of data. As every layer processes the batch, it writes intermediate activations into HBM so they are available later. Once the forward pass finishes and the loss is calculated, the backward pass begins: the GPU revisits those stored activations and weights, reading them from HBM to compute gradients. The resulting weight gradients, plus any auxiliary optimizer statistics (for example, momentum or variance terms in Adam), are also written to HBM. Finally, the optimizer reads those gradients and statistics from HBM to update the weights in place, ready for the next iteration. However, training operations require more compute relative to data transfer, meaning training is more often compute bound. But as mentioned above, RL is now key to improving model capability – so what was traditionally achieved with pre-training is becoming more like inference in the form of reinforcement learning.

The rest of this piece will discuss OpenAI’s ASIC project, shoreline area challenges, the revolutionary change coming to HBM4 with custom base dies for HBM, the advantages on PHYs, memory controller offload, repeater PHYs, LPDDR + HBM combos, and various beachfront expansion techniques. It will also discuss SRAM, compute under memory, supply chain implications, and Samsung’s struggles.

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Intel 18A Details & Cost, Future of DRAM 4F2 vs 3D, Backside Power Adoption (or Not), China’s FlipFET, Digital Twins from Atoms to Fabs, and More

Long time readers will recall that SemiAnalysis covers more than just datacenters and AMD. Today we’re back to semiconductors with a tech-focused roundup of the best from this year’s VLSI conference, the premiere design and integration. That includes the latest in chips manufacturing: fab digital twins, the future of advanced logic transistors and interconnects, DRAM architectures beyond the 1x nm nodes, and more. We’ll discuss Intel’s 18A process and compare with TSMC, where backside power will be adopted (and where it won’t), and the likely winners in 4F2 versus 3D DRAM.

Digital Twins: From Atoms to Fabs

Semiconductor design and fabrication is getting exponentially more complex, increasing development costs and lengthening design cycles. Digital twins allow for design exploration and optimization to be done in an accelerated virtual environment. With this, engineers can ensure that designs work before any silicon is run through the fab.

Digital twins span the entire scale of semiconductor design:

  • Atomic-level: Simulate the quantum and Newtonian interactions between atoms in materials engineering of transistor contacts and gates
  • Wafer-level: Optimize tool chambers and process recipes in virtual silicon for yield and performance
  • Fab-level: Maximize fab productivity with orchestrated maintenance and management across the fleet
Source: Synopsys

On atomistic simulations, Synopsys provided an overview of their QuantumATK suite, used in materials engineering in transistor contacts and gate oxide stack design, which are critical to device performance. Traditional Density Functional Theory (DFT) modelling of quantum effects between atoms is the most accurate but computationally expensive, while conventional force field simulation of Newtonian atomic interactions is quick but with limited accuracy. GPU accelerated DFT-NEGF (Non-Equilibrium Green’s Function) demonstrated a 9.3x speedup using only 4x A100 vs CPU, while Machine-Learned Force Field simulation using Moment Tensor Potentials demonstrated near-DFT accuracy with 17 min compute cost vs 12 days with traditional DFT.

Source: Synopsys

These atomic models are critical in understanding the electrical interactions occurring at the interface between different material layers. In contact engineering, MLFF is used to generate the contact interface between crystalline silicon and amorphous silicides, simulating the depth of interdiffusion where the boundary undergoes silicidation. DFT-NEGF is then used to calculate contact resistance and current-voltage curves across the interface. For gate oxide design, the complex multi-layer work function metal stack is built using MLFF and simulated to check its structure and chemical composition. Dipole dopants can then be introduced and optimized with DFT, which also does electrostatic analysis to calculate key parameters such as effective work function, Schottky barrier height and equivalent oxide thickness. As we move forward into Gate All Around design schemes, these atomic simulations become even more important in choosing the right materials.

Lam’s Law: As complexity increases, the number of possible recipe combinations grows exponentially. Source: Lam Research
Lam’s Digital Twin offerings scale from process to tool and up to virtual fabs.
Source: Lam Research

On wafer-level optimization with virtual silicon, Lam Research presented work on their Coventor SEMulator3D software. With transistor geometries increasing in complexity from planar to FinFET to GAA, the number of possible process recipe combinations only grows exponentially, which they’ve marketed as Lam’s Law. Virtual wafer fabrication is done with process simulation using trained models with optimized parameters, allowing engineers to widen process windows and improve yield while reducing the number of physical test wafer cycles required to validate changes. Lam also builds their deposition and etch tools as a digital twin, building virtual chambers with plasma flow simulation to help in recipe prediction while also optimizing chamber design for uniformity across the wafer.

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Source: Lam Research

These simulation tools have been used in process window studies to select backside contact schemes with the widest process window while investigating how each recipe affects the stress and strain across the nanosheet transistors. High Aspect Ratio etch schemes also use virtual environments to predict tool output etch profiles for a given input mask pattern. These etch profiles are compared to a target output profile and given a distance which is then minimized with further tests in the digital twin.

Source: Lam Research

Going up to the fab-level, Lam also presented the work needed to achieve a ‘lights-out’ fab. That is a fab that requires no human intervention and as such one can turn the lights off. Tool fleets need to be orchestrated in a virtual twin at near real-time speeds to coordinate tool downtime and maximize fab productivity. The tools themselves need to be ‘self-aware’ with their predictive maintenance, using built-in metrology tools that detect tool alignment and process drift over its lifetime. For a lights-out fab, each tool should target at least 1 year of uninterrupted operation with no human intervention, with automatic recovery after failure and self-requesting maintenance.

Source: Lam Research

Maintenance of tools would be carried out automatically with robotic parts delivery and installation of consumables and wear items, with tools being designed around robotic maintenance. While a conceptual target of 2035-2040 was given by Lam, the main barrier facing lights-out fabs is with data and connectivity across tools from different vendors and the standardization of maintenance processes.

TSMC DRAM in BEOL

Source: TSMC

With SRAM bit density no longer increasing with new process nodes, TSMC R&D sought to revive eDRAM to boost chip cache densites. Embedded DRAM was last seen in IBM’s z15 on GlobalFoundries 14nm. The main innovation here is that TSMC can fabricate the entire memory array within the BEOL metal layers, with the DRAM transistor and capacitor formation scheme being within the 400 degree C limit of BEOL flows. This frees up the front-side transistors and lower metal layers for functional logic blocks. With modern processor designs increasing the ratio of SRAM to logic area, being able to stack a DRAM-based last level cache on top of active logic would represent a breakthrough in scalability and design.

However, the demonstration shown is still early in the R&D phase, with the available advanced logic area below just used to house the DRAM peripheral logic (Wordline drivers and sense amplifiers) to boost memory density. The 4Mbit macro that was fabricated only had a bit density of 63.7 Mb/mm2, not even 2x that of modern high density 6T SRAM. For reference, Micron’s latest 1-gamma DRAM would be about 9x denser than this, but without the performance and accessibility to serve as on-die cache.

While TSMC did not give any hints on when this will be ready for productization, it does show huge potential for future generations of this technology, which will fundamentally change how chips are designed.

DRAM: 4F2 and 3D

DRAM has two inflection points on its 5-year roadmap: 4F2 and 3D. The current 6F2, in use for more than a decade, will only scale until the 1d node. With 1c in high volume now, 1d should debut in the next 1-2 years. SK Hynix highlighted a few key challenges in scaling beyond 1d:

Source: SK Hynix

Cell contact areas, in particular the storage node contact where the storage capacitor connects to the control transistor below, shrink quadratically with cell critical dimension. The contacts must be large / well aligned enough to provide a good electrical connection between the transistor and capacitor, but not be so large or misaligned that they short out to any neighboring cells. This is the “cell contact open margin” in the chart above, shrinking with every node. At 1d the process and tooling reach their limits for a workable, high-yield process.

The resistance in the shrinking devices and interconnects also grows as they scale down. This is the “cell external resistance” referenced above. It’s a catch-all sum of all resistive elements between the memory cell and the sense amplifier. The bitline contact and local bitline (metal) wire itself are two main contributors. Both increase in resistance as they scale. This slows down cell operation and reduces the read margin of the cell, both undesirable. Operation speed is affected by charge transfer between the cell and bitline, which slows as the resistance of that path increases. Resistance also saps the voltage differential that the sense amplifier sees. Too little and the cell cannot reliably be read – the memory doesn’t work:

DRAM cell layouts. ACT = active region of the cell control transistor. DC = direct contact, between bitline and transistor drain. BL = bitline. WL = wordline. Source: Samsung

4F2 solves these issues and more. We won’t rehash the basics of the architecture – see our Memory Wall report linked above – but a few specifics are interesting:

The cell contact challenge in 6F2 comes from congestion where the bitline and storage node contact are on the same level (storage node contacts are denoted as BC for buried contact in the image below).

Source: Samsung

From a side-on view, its easy to see how little margin there is between the bitline and contact:

Source: SK Hynix

Compare this to vertical channel transistors (VCT) in a 4F2 layout; the buried bitline has its own real estate well out of the way of any other components. The current path is also much shorter, directly down from capacitor, through the vertical channel, directly to the bitline. In 6F2 the path is down through the bottom of the “U” shaped channel and back up, longer and consequently with higher resistance.

Current path through control transistor and contacts is much shorter in 4F2, resistance is much lower so more of the precious electrons make it in and out of the cell. Source: Samsung, SemiAnalysis

Of course, there are challenges for implementing 4F2 or it would’ve been adopted already. Both the buried bitline and vertical channel transistor are high aspect ratio, difficult for etch and deposition tools. Until just a few years ago deposition tools were not capable of filling a deep trench with the required metals for the bitline, likely Ru or Co. The cell layout, although it reduces some of the alignment challenges, is still denser and thus requires EUV patterning. Last, there was simply no reason to take the risk of changing architectures when 6F2 was still scalable.

There are still a few wildcards in 4F2 development that may determine which fab can achieve lowest cost per bit and good yields, and which tool vendors might benefit. The gate structure, crucial to the performance of the memory cell, might be dual or even gate all around. SK Hynix and others are still deciding.

Source: SK Hynix

There is also a choice between peripheral-under-cell and peripheral-on-cell. Conventionally the peripheral circuitry would’ve been adjacent to the memory cells on the wafer frontside, but for increased overall density it will be moved underneath the cell array. Peri-under-cell is similar to backside power for logic, requiring fusion bonding of a second wafer. The control transistors are built in an array on the frontside before a support wafer is bonded on, the wafer flipped, and the peri built up. Then everything is flipped once more to add the storage node contacts and capacitors themselves. The tool vendors who would see incremental benefit are similar to the BSPDN supply chain – CMP, fusion bonding, TSV etch.

Source: SK Hynix

Peri-on-cell is simply hybrid bonding of completed storage node array and peripheral wafers. While this offers some process latitude – the peri can be made without worrying about damage to the array and vice versa – it requires hybrid bonding at a pitch of well below 50nm. That’s an order of magnitude lower than the current leading edge. Still, Hynix at least is looking at it in R&D, and other applications will drive hybrid bonder development regardless.

Last, 3D DRAM is being developed in parallel. Current progress suggests a few nodes of 4F2 are likely before 3D is ready. Chinese chipmakers are a potential disruptor here, as they have strong incentive to develop 3D because it is not dependent on advanced litho.

NVDRAM

Micron’s NVDRAM (NV for non-volatile) resurfaced 18 months after its first appearance at IEDM 2023. This is their ferroelectric (HZO) DRAM using a 4F2 architecture, Ruthenium wordlines, and CMOS under array. If you were trying to make an expensive memory using all the latest tricks, this is probably how you’d do it.

Source: Micron

The bitcells were scaled by an impressive 27% since the previous paper, to 41nm on a side, without a degradation in performance. That brings density to nearly 0.6 Gb/mm2, well above any high volume commercial DRAM available today.

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Theoretically NVDRAM has a small advantage over traditional DRAM since it does not waste power and time performing refresh cycles. Unfortunately, the electricity savings amount to roughly $1 per year. When a single DIMM is on the order of $300+, the lifetime energy savings are nowhere near enough to justify the higher price of this exotic product. At the very least, the work on Ru wordlines, 4F2, vertical channel transistors, and CMOS under array are all applicable to upcoming DRAM nodes.

2D Materials

Replacing silicon is a high bar. Any replacement must not only yield better performing, denser transistors, it must also be practical to use. Silicon wafers are a commodity and can easily be doped in select areas to form transistor channels. 2D materials are not yet practical to work with on an industrial scale. We’ve written many different times that on-wafer growth is they key blocker. But if chipmakers or labs are solving this problem, they’re keeping it quiet. The papers we saw on other innovations – Intel improving contact formation, Samsung building CFETs with 2D channels – are impressive, but ultimately fall flat if the material can’t be grown in an economic way in the first place.

Intel demonstration of an improved source/drain contact for a 2D transistor using Ru polished with CMP. Unfortunately the process still depends on transfer rather than growth for the 2D material. Source: Intel

Forksheet

Gate-all-around is no longer the “next big thing” in logic, it’s ramping towards high volume. Forksheet and CFET have taken the mantle of exciting next-gen architectures. An evolution of GAA, forksheet entails putting the N- and P- halves of a CMOS closer together by adding a dielectric wall between them.

Source: TSMC

In a traditional architecture, the spacing between NMOS and PMOS devices is limited by parasitic capacitance and the threat of latch-up. Increasing parasitic capacitance means the chip runs slower and uses more power. Latch-up is an outright failure of the transistors giving the input voltage Vdd an uncontrolled path directly to ground. Some techniques already exist – most importantly shallow trench isolation – for mitigating these effects.

Forksheet is a new, theoretically better technique along these same lines. While the material between NMOS and PMOS has always been some sort of insulating dielectric, a forksheet requires an exquisite layer of ultra low-k material to enable tighter spacing. This introduces new integration challenges and extra cost into the manufacturing process.

It’s not trivial to develop a material that can be deposited in nm-thick, high-quality films but also withstand subsequent processing as the rest of the transistor is formed. Plasma-induced damage from etch or deposition is a particular problem. Most papers aren’t detailing their material solutions here but it’s a good bet that AMAT, traditionally the leader in ultra-low-k dielectrics, is playing a part.

Forksheet also nominally has worse gate control than gate-all-around. This is because the gate only wraps around three sides of the transistor channel, the fourth abuts the forksheet wall. It’s basically a finFET turned sideways. Increased density but worse electrostatic control vs. GAA isn’t necessarily a good tradeoff. There are a few workarounds: 1) slightly etch back the forksheet wall, leaving room for gate material to envelop the fourth side of the channel, sacrificing some scaling benefit 2) add additional nanosheets to improve electrostatics control, adding cost and integration complexity.

TSMC, IBM, and IMEC all talked extensively about forksheets. For IBM and IMEC this has limited commercial relevance. For TSMC, a willingness to discuss in detail might even be a negative signal for real adoption. No publicly announced node – through the 14 angstrom families at present – is using forksheet.

CFET Timeline

Even so, the potential successor to forksheet is already being discussed. CFET has been in vogue for a few years and we’ve covered the basics before:

Current work is towards industrialization. Lab demonstrations of a single device work well and look great on slides, but the cost is high and yield low. Even though they are popular at conferences, we think real adoption of CFETs in high volume is still a decade out. A presenter from Intel, in a talk about “beyond RibbonFET,” outright said “We will probably see gate all around for another decade.” As with copper interconnects and finFETs, the core technologies of logic tend to extend 1-2 nodes beyond what is expected.

China’s FlipFET Design

Source: SemiAnalysis

Despite various sanctions, China is not slowing down in semiconductor research and development. Out of all the academic papers presented, Peking University’s FlipFET design caught the most attention, showcasing a novel patterning scheme to achieve similar PPA to CFETs without the headaches of monolithic or sequential integration.

Source: Peking University

Essentially, the FlipFET concept starts with forming the fins or nanosheets for both top and bottom transistors, but only does the high temperature Source/Drain epitaxy for the top transistor before flipping the wafer and exposing the backside for processing. The contacts and BEOL metal layers are patterned before the wafer is flipped again to complete the lower temperature processes on both sides. This method produces a self-aligned transistor stack that does not need high-aspect ratio processing that monolithic CFETs have to overcome. Forming the gates from both sides also allows easier threshold voltage tuning differences between the top and bottom device.

However, the main drawback to FlipFET is cost, trading off easier integration of the active transistors at the expense of multiple backside process flows with a greater susceptibility to wafer warpage and overlay errors, lowering yield. So far, the lab has only fabricated frontside and backside transistors on separate wafers, leaving doubts on whether the fabrication of the other transistor would affect device performance of the first. Alignment of fine-pitch contacts and metals after wafer flipping is also a concern, but should not be any more challenging than other CFET options.

While the Chinese labs have already demonstrated FlipFETs in silicon, they’re not stopping there. Further innovation of FlipFET designs were presented and modelled such as FlipFET with self-aligned gate, FlipFETs using forksheets with an embedded power rail within the isolation wall, and even applying the FlipFET concept to monolithic CFETs with high aspect ratio Vias to achieve a 4-stack transistor design.

18A Process Details

The star paper was Intel’s 18A presentation. This is the first detailed public look at a real high volume backside power process.

Source: Intel

Intel claims 30% SRAM scaling for 18A against an Intel 3 baseline. A large one-time benefit like this is expected when changing from finFET to GAA. The cell diagrams clearly show the shrink achieved by replacing 2 fins with a single stack of wide ribbons:

Source: Intel

Comparing high density (HD) cell areas, 18A is on par with TSMC N5 and N3E at 0.0210 µm2. N2 should also see at least some benefit from the finFET -> GAA transition, but most of the claimed 22% SRAM scaling (vs. N3E) likely comes from the periphery not the bitcells themselves. Overall 18A density is likely to be slightly less than N3P, and close to 30% less than N2.

18A Cost vs. Leading Nodes

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Meta Superintelligence – Leadership Compute, Talent, and Data

Meta’s shocking purchase of 49% of Scale AI at a ~$30B valuation shows that money is of no concern for the $100B annual cashflow ad machine. Despite seemingly unlimited resources, Meta has been falling behind foundation labs in model performance.

The real wake-up call came when Meta lost its lead in open-weight models to DeepSeek. That stirred the sleeping giant. Now in full Founder Mode, Mark Zuckerberg is personally leading Meta’s charge, identifying Meta’s two core shortcomings: Talent and Compute. As one of the last founders still running a tech behemoth, Mark doesn’t need SemiAnalysis to tell him to slow down stock buybacks to fund the future!

Source: Meta financials and SemiAnalysis estimates

In addition to throwing money at the problem, he’s fundamentally rethinking Meta’s approach to GenAI. He’s starting a new “Superintelligence” team from scratch and personally poaching top AI talent with pay that makes top athlete pay look like chump change. The typical offer for the folks being poached for this team is $200 million over 4 years. That is 100x that of their peers. Furthermore, there have been some billion dollar offers that were not accepted by researcher/engineering leadership at OpenAI. While these offers aren’t all successful, Zuck is crushing the competitors by drastically increasing their cost per employee.

Perhaps even more iconic, Zuck threw his entire Datacenter playbook into the trash and is now building multi-billion-dollar GPU clusters in “Tents”!

Source: SemiAnalysis Datacenter Model – as of 07/06/2025

As this report details, nothing is off the table. We unpack Meta’s unprecedented reinvention from Compute to Talent in the pursuit of Superintelligence as well as the story of how we got here. From Llama 3.0 open-sourced dominance to the epic fail of Llama 4 Behemoth, this Titan of AI is down but not out. In fact, we believe Meta’s ramp in training FLOPS will rival even that of OAI. The company is going from GPU-poor to GPU-filthy-rich on a per researcher basis.

Meta GenAI 1.0: AI Incrementalism

Compared to pure-play AI labs like OpenAI, companies like Meta and Google have followed an “AI Incrementalism” strategy by enhancing existing products with better recommendation systems and GenAI to improve ad targeting, content tagging, and internal tools. This has paid off handsomely in financial results, allowing Meta to shrug off Apple’s attempts at stopping them from tracking users with the release of their App Tracking Transparency (ATT) feature in iOS 14.5 (late 2021, early 2022).

Source: Company filings

While Meta is arguably more insulated from GenAI disruption than Google, LLM efforts at both companies have been somewhat disappointing. One reason is the allocation of capital primarily for the core business rather than pursuing superintelligence.

“Our CapEx growth this year is going toward both generative AI and core business needs with the majority of overall CapEx supporting the core.”

Source: Meta Q1 2025 earnings call, emphasis SemiAnalysis

GenAI acts as an extension to these tech giants’ businesses. They don’t have the same existential need to dominate new use cases like OpenAI in chatbots and Anthropic in coding APIs. This is readily apparent in the compute vs human capital allocation of a leading AI foundation lab like OpenAI compared to Meta. Zuck’s impact on competing offers and inflation of salary will hurt badly.

Source: The Information, SemiAnalysis estimates 

As a result, when measuring GenAI consumer app traction, Meta and Google meaningfully lag ChatGPT in its reach and engagement.

But that’s changing. Leveraging our proprietary Accelerator Industry Model and Datacenter Industry Model, we forecast a meaningful step up in GenAI investment from Meta in the coming years.

Source: SemiAnalysis Core Research, actual numbers are shown beyond paywall, at the bottom of the report. 

Meta GenAI 2.0 – Part 1, Re-Inventing the Datacenter Strategy (Again)

From Buildings to Tents

Just a year ago, Meta scrapped its decade-old “H”-shaped datacenter blueprint for a new AI-optimized design.

Source: SemiAnalysis Datacenter Model

Now in 2025, Zuck decided to re-invent the strategy again. Inspired by xAI’s unprecedented time-to-market, Meta is embracing a datacenter design that prioritizes speed above all else. They’re already building more of them! Traditional datacenter and real estate investors, still somewhat reeling from xAI’s Memphis site and time to market, will be shocked yet again.

Source: SemiAnalysis Datacenter Model – as of 07/06/2025 

This design isn’t about beauty or redundancy. It’s about getting compute online fast! From prefabricated power and cooling modules to ultra-light structures, speed is of the essence as there is no backup generation (ie no diesel generators in sight).

Power currently uses nearby Meta on-site substations. Meta likely uses sophisticated workload management to maximize the utilization of every watt of power it gets from the grid. It might even need to shut down workloads in the hottest summer days.

Source: SemiAnalysis Datacenter Model – as of 07/01/2025 

The Prometheus 1GW AI Training Cluster – An “All Of The Above” Infrastructure Strategy

Meta is quietly building one of the world’s largest AI training clusters in Ohio. We have heard from sources within their infrastructure organization they are calling this cluster Prometheus. To beat rival AI labs, Meta has carried out an “all the above” infrastructure strategy:

Looking at the Prometheus training cluster below, we believe Meta is connecting all these sites with ultra-high-bandwidth networks all on one backend network powered by Arista 7808 Switches with Broadcom Jericho and Ramon ASICs.

Source: SemiAnalysis Datacenter Model 

By combining both self-build and leasing, Meta ramps faster. In fact they pre-leased more capacity second half of 2024 than any hyperscaler, mostly in Ohio.

Source: SemiAnalysis Datacenter Model  

Furthermore, when the local power grid couldn’t keep up, Meta went full Elon mode. With help from Williams, they’re building two 200MW on-site natural gas plants. The equipment breakdown for the first includes:

  • 3* Solar Turbines’ Titan 250 turbines
  • 9* PGM 130 turbines
  • 3* Siemens Energy SGT400 turbines
  • 15* CAT 3520 Reciprocating Engines
Source: Siemens Energy 

A future SemiAnalysis report will dig much deeper into these systems for the purpose of powering datacenters: cost, advantages & disadvantages, etc. This has signficant negative implications for a certain supplier of onsite natural gas solutions.

This total compute advantage for OpenAI is important as the advent of reinforcement learning means many large datacenters distributed around the US can be used asynchronously to contribute to improving model intelligence with post-training.

Not to be one-upped, Hyperion—Meta’s second frontier cluster—aims to erase that gap to OpenAI.

Source: SemiAnalysis Datacenter Model and Accelerator Model 

Beating Stargate at Scale: Meta’s Hyperion 2GW Cluster

While all eyes are on the high-profile Stargate datacenter in Abilene, Meta has been planning a response for over a year and making tremendous progress. The Louisiana cluster is set to be the world’s largest individual campus by the end of 2027, with over 1.5GW of IT power in phase 1. Sources tell us this is internally named Hyperion.

Source: DatacenterDynamics 

Meta broke ground at the end of 2024 and is currently actively working on both the power infrastructure, and the datacenter campus.

Source: SemiAnalysis Datacenter Model – July 1st, 2025 picture 

To be clear, Meta has many other datacenters under construction and ramping. A full list of Meta’s AI Datacenters, their expected completion dates, and power per building by quarter can be found in our Datacenter Industry Model.

Llama 4 Failure – From Open-Source Prince to Behemoth Pauper

Before we dive into the Superintelligence Talent race, we should take a look at how Meta found itself in this awkward position. After leading the open-source frontier with Llama 3, Meta now finds itself trailing China’s DeepSeek.

Source: OpenRouter, SemiAnalysis estimates

On a technical level, we believe the major contributors to the failed run were as follows:

  1. Chunked attention
  2. Expert choice routing
  3. Pretraining data quality
  4. Scaling strategy and coordination

Chunked Attention

Naively implemented, attention in large language models scales quadratically with token count. To address this, researchers introduced memory-efficient mechanisms. Meta chose chunked attention for Behemoth, and that may have been a mistake.

Source: Awnihannun, SemiAnalysis

Standard Causal Attention: Imagine a series of expanding triangles fanning out from the top left corner, representing the attention size for every subsequent token. Double the tokens and the area of the triangle quadruples.

Source: Awnihannun, SemiAnalysis

Chunked Attention breaks this triangle into fixed-size blocks. Each block resets attention to a new “first” token. With the efficiency of reduced memory, it enables even longer context. Meta felt they needed this to achieve long context, but the tradeoffs aren’t worth it. The first token in each block lacks access to prior context. While there are some global attention layers, that’s not enough as we expand on below.

Source: Awnihannun, SemiAnalysis

Sliding Window Attention, used in other models, provides a smoother alternative: the attention window slides forward token-by-token. This maintains local continuity, even if long-range reasoning still requires multiple layers to propagate context.

Source: Awnihannun, SemiAnalysis

Behemoth’s implementation of chunked attention chasing efficiency created blind spots, especially at block boundaries. This impacts the model’s ability to develop reasoning abilities as chain of thought exceeds one chunk in length. The model struggles to reason across longer ranges. While this may seem obvious in hindsight, we believe part of the problem was that Meta didn’t even have the proper long context evaluations or testing infrastructure set up to determine that chunked attention would not work for developing a reasoning model. Meta is very far behind on RL and internal evals, but the new poached employees will help close the reasoning gap massively.

Expert Choice Routing

Most modern LLMs use a Mixture of Experts architecture in which, between each model layer, a the token is routed to different experts based on a router. In modern MoE models, most are trained with token choice routing, i.e. the router provides a tensor of shape T x E (T being total tokens, E being number of experts in the MoE model) and a topK softmax is run on the E dimension producing a T by K tensor. This effectively means that the router is asked to choose K most probable experts for each of the tokens T, where K can be one or more experts. K is a hyperparameter that can be tuned by the researcher.

Source: Mixture-of-Experts with Expert Choice Routing, Fig. 1 token choice routing

The advantage of this approach is that each token is guaranteed to be attended to by K experts, making sure the information value of each token is absorbed by the same number experts. The disadvantage is that certain experts can be disproportionately ‘popular’ with tokens while other experts are under-trained, resulting in an imbalance in the ‘intelligence’ of each expert. A known problem, many of the top labs have developed a fix with auxiliary-loss (or loss-less) load balancing. When training with EP (Expert Parallelism), this can lead to lower training MFU, as the model is spread across different GPU nodes, resulting in many more collectives (NCCL) running across the scale-out network (InfiniBand or RoCE) instead of the scale-up network (NVLink). This is a major motivation for NVIDIA’s NVL72 design, where the scale-up network expands beyond standard 8-way servers.

Expert choice routing, introduced by Google in 2022, flips the logic: experts choose the top-N tokens. Taking the same T x E tensor produced by the router, in expert choice routing a topN softmax is run on the T dimension which produces a E by N tensor. This effectively means each of the E experts has chosen the N highest probability tokens to be routed. The N hyperparameter can be tuned by the researcher but to compare it to a token choice routing approach, N = K * T / E.

Source: Mixture-of-Experts with Expert Choice Routing, Fig. 1 token choice routing

When compared directly to token choice routing, expert choice routing guarantees that experts are being activated in a balanced manner, avoiding the performance degradations associated with imbalanced experts. To be clear: the router makes the choice in both cases. In token choice, the input to the router is the tokens, and it picks the experts. In expert choice, the input to the router is the experts, and it picks the tokens.

This equalizes the load for expert training and improves MFU across distributed hardware. Hyperscaler networks are purpose-built for this kind of parallelism, and we cover them extensively in our Networking model.

The disadvantages of this approach is inverse of the token choice architecture. Expert choice routing can result in certain ‘popular’ tokens being attended to by multiple experts. While this doesn’t produce the same training bottleneck that is present in token choice routing, it can result in degraded model generalization as the LLM now does not pay attention to all tokens equally. Furthermore, most EC models need to be finished with TC training to produce an effective LLM.

Inference is also another issue for EC. Inference is split in two steps: Prefill and Decode. In the Prefill stage, the user prompt is encoded and loaded into the KVCache. This step is Flop-bound. In the Decode step, the model calculates the attention and runs through the feed forward network of the model one token at a time one layer at a time.

Here, expert choice routing struggles as the experts can only choose from to 1 token x batch size per layer initially, resulting in each expert only given a very small set of tokens compared to when it was trained (an example training run would have 8k seqlen x 16 batch size = 128k tokens per pass). Being able to see the entire sequence as in training would break causality of modern autoregressive models hence the mix of EC and TC even for EC models.

Meta switched from expert choice to token choice routing partway through the run which is not unusual for EC models. However the performance drop from the switch resulted in a model that was meaningfully worse than a model fully trained on TC.

Data Quality: A Self-Inflicted Wound

Llama 3 405B was trained on 15T tokens and we believe Llama 4 Behemoth required substantially more tokens, 3-4x order of magnitude larger. Getting sufficiently high-quality data is a major bottleneck that Western hyperscalers cannot shortcut by copying the homework of other models’ outputs.

Prior to Llama 4 Behemoth, Meta had been using public data (like Common Crawl), but switched mid-run to an internal web crawler they built. While this is generally superior, it also backfired. The team struggled to clean and deduplicate the new data stream. The processes hadn’t been stress-tested at scale.

Furthermore, unlike all other leading AI labs including OpenAI and Deepseek, Meta does not utilize YouTube data. YouTube lecture transcripts and other videos are an incredible source for data and the company may have struggled to produce a multimodal model without the data.

Scaling Experiments

Beyond the above technical issues, the Llama 4 team also struggled to scale research experiments into a full-fledged training run. There were competing research directions and a lack of leadership to decide which direction was the most productive path forward. Certain model architecture choices did not have proper ablations but were thrown into the model. This led to poorly managed scaling ladders.

As an example of how hard scaling experiments can be, let’s look at OpenAI’s training of GPT 4.5. OAI’s internal code monorepo is very important for training their model as they need a validation dataset to measure perplexity against when doing training ablations that is known to be uncontaminated. While scaling GPT 4.5 training experiments, they were seeing promising developments in the model’s ability to generalize only to realize mid-run that parts of the monorepo were copied-pasted directly from publicly available data. The model was not generalizing but rather regurgitating memorized code from its training dataset! Large pretraining runs requires enormous amounts of diligence and preparation to effectively execute.

Despite all of these technical issues, not all was lost. Meta was still able to distill the logits into the smaller and more efficient pretrained Maverick and Scout models, bypassing some of the flawed architectural choices of the larger model. Distillation is far more efficient than reinforcement learning for smaller models. That said, these models are still bound by the limitations of their source: they aren’t best-in-class for their size.

Meta GenAI 2.0 Pt 2: Bridging the Talent Gap

With infrastructure revamp underway and the technical lessons absorbed, Meta’s GenAI 2.0 strategy now pivots to the next ingredient of superintelligence: talent.

Mark Zuckerberg understands the talent gap relative to leading AI labs and has taken over recruiting. He’s on a mission to build a small but extremely talent-dense team, casually offering signing bonuses in the tens of millions of dollars. The goal is to create a “flywheel effect”: top tier researchers join the adventure, bringing credibility and momentum to the project. It’s already working with recent high-profile hires including:

  • Nat Friedman, former GitHub CEO
  • Alex Wang, former Scale AI CEO
  • Daniel Gross, who was the CEO and co-founder of SSI, Ilya Sustkever’s startup.

The recruiting pitch is powerful: unrivaled compute per researcher, a shot at building the best open-source model family, and access to over 2 billion Daily Active Users. The offers that generally range from $200M to $300M per researcher for 4 years also strengthens this pitch. As such Meta has acquired awesome talent from OpenAI, Anthropic, and many other firms.

M&A, Scale AI, etc

Zuckerberg reportedly made acquisition offers to both Thinking Machines and SSI, but was turned down. While some have noted that Zuckerberg “settled” for Scale AI, we do not think this is the case. As we discussed, core to many of the Llama 4 issues were data problems and the Scale acquisition is a direct move to address that.

Alex will bring many of the top engineers from Scale, especially the SEAL lab which specializes in evals that Meta so desperately needs. SEAL has developed one of the top benchmarks for Reasoning model evaluations, HLE (Humanity’s Last Exam). With Nat Friedman and Daniel Gross joining the team, Meta gains not just elite operators but tow of the most prolific and respected investors in the AI community. Meta has very strong product people at the top.

The More You Buy The More You Save: OBBB Edition

Zuck could not have picked a better time start this spending splurge. The One Big Beautfiul Bill has some tax goodies specific to hyperscalers that could massively accelerate the tax incentives to build now and go big. Superintelligence funded by the federal government is the modern Manhattan Project.

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